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COMPASS Pathways plc (NASDAQ:CMPS<\/span>) Q1 2023 Earnings Conference Call May 11, 2023 8:00 AM ET<\/p>\n

Company Participants<\/strong><\/p>\n

Steve Schultz – Senior Vice President of Investor Relations<\/p>\n

Kabir Nath – Chief Executive Officer<\/p>\n

Guy Goodwin – Chief Medical Officer<\/p>\n

Mike Falvey – Chief Financial Officer<\/p>\n

Conference Call Participants<\/strong><\/p>\n

Elemer Piros – EF Hutton<\/p>\n

Charles Duncan – Cantor Fitzgerald<\/p>\n

Frank Brisebois – Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.<\/p>\n

Joshua Schimmer – Evercore ISI<\/p>\n

Patrick Trucchio – H.C. Wainwright & Co.<\/p>\n

Ritu Baral – Cowen and Company<\/p>\n

Neena Bitritto-Garg – Citi<\/p>\n

Sumant Kulkarni – Canaccord Genuity<\/p>\n

Operator<\/strong><\/p>\n

Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the COMPASS Pathways First Quarter 2023 Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers\u2019 presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today\u2019s conference is being recorded.<\/p>\n

I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Steven Schultz. Please go ahead.<\/p>\n

Steve Schultz<\/strong><\/p>\n

Welcome all of you and thank you for joining us today for our first quarter 2023 results conference call. Again, my name is Steve Schultz. I\u2019m Senior Vice President of Investor Relations at COMPASS Pathways. Today, I\u2019m joined by Kabir Nath, our Chief Executive Officer; Dr. Guy Goodwin, our Chief Medical Officer; and Mike Falvey, our Chief Financial Officer. The call is being recorded and will be available on the COMPASS Pathways Investor Relations website shortly after the conclusion of the call.<\/p>\n

Before we begin, let me remind everyone that during the call today, the team will be making forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 as amended. You should not place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements. Actual events or results could differ materially from those expressed or implied by any forward-looking statements as a result of various risks, uncertainties, and other factors including those risks and uncertainties described under the heading Risk Factors in our quarterly report on Form 10-Q filed with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission and in subsequent filings made by COMPASS with the SEC.<\/span><\/p>\n

Additionally, these forward-looking statements represent our views only as of today and should not be relied upon as representing our views of any subsequent date. We specifically disclaim any obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements even if our estimates or assumptions change.<\/span><\/p>\n

And with that, I will now hand the call over to Kabir Nath.<\/p>\n

A – Kabir Nath<\/strong><\/p>\n

Thank you, Steve. Good day, everyone, and thank you for joining us. During this past quarter, COMPASS Pathways has continued to make excellent progress with our COMP360 Phase 3 pivotal program in treatment-resistant depression, or TRD, with patients being treated in both trials.<\/p>\n

You may recall that on our fourth quarter conference call, we said that we expected the FDA to come back to us with comments on pivotal trial design amendments by March the 20th. We\u2019ve now received comments for both the 005 and 006 trial designs. While I won\u2019t go into the details of our interactions with the FDA, I will say that the comments reflected an active and thoughtful dialogue.<\/p>\n

As you would expect, with a drug development program that has breakthrough designation, we will have ongoing engagement with the FDA more broadly over the whole course of the development program. The upshot is that we are continuing to execute both the 005 and 006 trials as described in our February conference call and, importantly, with no changes to the trial design. We also continued to expect top line results for the six-week primary endpoint for 005 in summer of 2024 and for 006 in mid-2025.<\/p>\n

On the reimbursement front, the American Medical Association has accepted a current procedural terminology, or CPT III code, for psychedelic therapies. This was a very welcome development and the result of a collaboration between COMPASS Pathways and MAPS Public Benefit Corporation. Once effective, the CPT code will provide physicians and other qualified healthcare professionals with a means to track the work involved and ultimately seek reimbursement for delivering psychedelic therapies.<\/p>\n

Existing codes can provide coverage for the preparation and integration sessions, but the new code will fill a gap and cover psychological support during administration. The full details of the code are expected to be released by the AMA in July this year, and the code will go into effect when it\u2019s published on January the 1st, 2024.<\/p>\n

Currently, clinicians are forced to use various different codes cobbled together to gain reimbursement for approved medicines that require observation or support during administration.<\/p>\n

This tracking code is a crucial step toward a single code that covers psychological support for therapies like COMP360, subject to FDA approval, and it\u2019s a critical step toward obtaining reimbursement. This helps enable broad and equitable access to psychedelic therapies. This ensures that FDA-approved psychedelic therapies could be integrated into healthcare systems, reimbursed by payers, and made available to the people who need them.<\/p>\n

Finally, we\u2019ve continued our active engagement with biotech specialist investors. We\u2019ve continued to communicate the depth and the progress of our programs and the strength of our value creation proposition in an area of significant unmet medical need. Since the beginning of this year, we\u2019ve raised roughly $28 million from sales under our ATM facility, including a large block trade in April.<\/p>\n

With that, let me now hand the call over to Dr. Guy Goodwin to provide further clinical updates.<\/p>\n

A – Guy Goodwin<\/strong><\/p>\n

Thank you, Kabir, and good day, all. Let me begin with a review of our COMPASS-sponsored clinical programs. In TRD, as you heard from Kabir, the Phase 3 program is progressing as planned, and we are actively treating patients in both trials. We are pleased with the rate of opening of clinical sites.<\/p>\n

This is a significant achievement as it\u2019s a complicated process to ensure that clinical sites that are cleared to handle a Schedule 1 compound are appropriately trained and can recruit suitable patients. This level of infrastructure is unprecedented and one that we believe represents a significant competitive advantage for COMPASS, both in this and future programs.<\/p>\n

Once sites surpass this stage, they are better able to concentrate on recruitment and patient management. I would, therefore, expect to see continued progress and acceleration on those fronts. Beyond treatment-resistant depression, our Phase 2 studies in PTSD and anorexia nervosa continue to progress well and are on track.<\/p>\n

In the anorexia nervosa study, we told you on our last call that we had encountered some challenges in getting patients into and through the screening process. I\u2019m pleased to report that we are now making excellent progress after amending and adjusting our procedures to enable recruitment more in line with our expectations. We look forward to updating you on future calls regarding expected timing.<\/p>\n

Looking beyond our sponsored trials to investigator-led studies, we continue to see encouraging data coming from these programs. In March, data on the use of COMP360 with psychological support in 12 patients with treatment-resistant body dysmorphic disorder, or BDD, were published in the Journal of Psychiatric Research. Individuals with BDD are preoccupied by aspects of their appearance that they misperceive as defective or ugly.<\/p>\n

In this study of a single 25-milligram dose of COMP360, primary treatment effect was measured with the BDD-YBOCS score, which improved significantly over the 12 weeks of follow-up, with a large effect size and significant changes from baseline seen at week one and persisting through week 12, the duration of the study.<\/p>\n

At week 12, seven participants, or 58%, were considered responders. Secondary measures of BDD symptom severity, conviction of beliefs, depression, negative effects, psychological insight, and disability all similarly showed significant improvement. Tolerability and safety were evidenced by completion of all study visits by all participants and that no serious adverse events or occurrences of suicidal ideation were reported.<\/p>\n

The signals we see in this BDD study align with the hypothesis that difficult-to-treat disorders with preoccupying thoughts or fears represent potential target indications for COMP360 psilocybin therapy. This comes on the heel of another IIS we told you about in February that evaluated a single 25-milligram dose of COMP360 psilocybin therapy in 14 patients with type II bipolar depression, another condition for which treatment options are limited.<\/p>\n

This study produced very compelling data with 12 of 14 patients, or 86%, achieving remission at 12 weeks after administration without a resumption of antidepressant medication. It is this kind of information that these studies were designed to generate, understanding the potential of COMP360 in other indications with significant unmet need. These data sets also reinforce our confidence in our Phase 3 program. I would expect to see additional interesting data from such studies as we move through this year.<\/p>\n

I will now hand the call to Mike for the financial overview.<\/p>\n

A – Mike Falvey<\/strong><\/p>\n

Thank you, Guy. I\u2019ll now recap our first quarter financial results. For the three months ended March 31, 2023, net loss was $24.2 million, or $0.57 per share, including non-cash share-based compensation of $4.1 million, compared to net loss of $21.2 million, or $0.50 per share, including non-cash share-based compensation of $3.1 million for the three months ended March 31, 2022.<\/p>\n

I will now turn to an analysis of the three months ended March 31, 2023 compared to the prior quarter ended December 31, 2022. For the three months ended March 31, 2023, net loss was $24.2 million, or $0.57 per share, compared with a net loss of $30.9 million, or $0.73 per share for the three months ended December 31, 2022. These results include non-cash share-based compensation of $4.1 million for the first quarter of 2023 and $3.3 million in the fourth quarter of 2022.<\/p>\n

Our first quarter financial results reflect our continued success in progressing our Phase 3 trial in treatment-resistant depression. In line with our expectations, cash used in operations was $27.7 million, in the middle of the guidance range we provided last quarter.<\/p>\n

R&D expenses were $19 million in the three months ended March 31, 2023, compared with $19.8 million in the three months ended December 31, 2022. The slight decrease was mainly caused by lower external development expenses due to the change in our Phase 3 design. This decrease was partially offset by increased personnel costs.<\/p>\n

G&A expenses were $12.8 million in the three months ended March 31, 2023, compared with $12.4 million in the three months ended December 31, 2022. This increase was due to increased personnel and legal costs, partially offset by decreased facilities and other expenses.<\/p>\n

Our cash balance decreased by $26 million in the first quarter of 2023 due to using $27.7 million in operating cash, partially offset by $1.1 million provided by financing activities due primarily to the sale of shares under our ATM facility and a change of $0.7 million due to exchange rates impacts. The movement in operating cash is primarily driven by our net loss, partially reduced by non-cash charges.<\/p>\n

Regarding guidance, we expect the second quarter net cash used in operating activities to be between $22 million and $30 million and the full year to be between $85 million and $110 million. The size of the second quarter range is due to the challenge in predicting the precise timing of cash outlays to support our Phase 3 program in its early stages. As the trial reaches steady-state enrollment, we expect to offer a narrower quarterly and annual range.<\/p>\n

COMPASS continues to maintain a strong financial position with cash and cash equivalents of $117.1 million at March 31, 2023, compared with $143.2 million at December 31, 2022. In addition to our first quarter cash balance, in the second quarter, we have received net proceeds of $26.9 million through the share \u2013 sale of shares under our ATM facility, which has further strengthened our cash position and extended our runway.<\/p>\n

We view our strong balance sheet as an important strategic asset, which we manage carefully as we invest to advance these promising potential therapies while, at the same time, continuing to create value for our shareholders.<\/p>\n

Thank you, and I\u2019ll now turn the call back to Kabir.<\/p>\n

A – Kabir Nath<\/strong><\/p>\n

Thank you, Mike. In closing, let me say that now as a Phase 3 company, COMPASS Pathways leads the way in the development of psychedelic therapies. We believe these therapies represent the next generation of mental health therapeutic options. There\u2019s a significant and growing number of people across the world suffering from serious mental illness who are not helped by existing standards of care.<\/p>\n

We must act with urgency on their behalf. Most programs in this area of science today are unproven, early stage, and risky. We\u2019ve established a high bar for evidence regarding safety and efficacy. Many of those early stage clinical studies will likely fail to meet their primary endpoints as we have seen with news from some other studies earlier this year.<\/p>\n

As Guy noted, we\u2019re progressing as expected in our Phase 3 program in treatment-resistant depression. While we ultimately expect to leverage our extensive data set to expand the development of COMP360 into a range of areas of unmet need, TRD is our first target indication and our clear focus.<\/p>\n

To this end, we continue to advance our commercial strategy on a number of fronts as we move through the Phase 3 program toward an NDA submission with the FDA. The CPT III code, as discussed earlier, is a prime example of a successful step forward with our commercial approach and a clear indication that it can translate to significant value creation.<\/p>\n

As Mike noted, we continue to be in a solid financial position with a strong balance sheet to help us advance these promising therapies. We are making strong, meaningful progress in our work to develop and deliver new therapeutic solutions to patients who suffer from difficult-to-treat mental health conditions. Thank you again for your participation on today\u2019s call.<\/p>\n

We\u2019ll now turn to Q&A, so I\u2019ll hand this back to the operator.<\/p>\n

Question-and-Answer Session<\/strong><\/p>\n

Operator<\/strong><\/p>\n

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Elemer Piros from EF Hutton. Your line is open.<\/p>\n

Elemer Piros<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Yes, good morning. Congratulations on putting in the temporary CPT code, Kabir. Maybe one question about that is, how precedented or not having a code established one to two years before either MAPS or you are going to launch a psychedelic therapy?<\/p>\n

And maybe if you could contrast this to the situation with J&J\u2019s Spravato, which may have \u2013 J&J may have not been as prepared as you may be. And if you wouldn\u2019t mind comparing the treatment regimen with COMP360 to Spravato, especially considering that a patient would have to spend eight times two hours in a clinic in the first month to receive that treatment.<\/p>\n

And \u2013 and just your take on J&J\u2019s first announcement of after, I think, four years of recording an annualized $500 million or so in revenue with that drug. I was wondering if you could provide a little comparison between the two.<\/p>\n

Kabir Nath<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Thanks, Elemer. The question \u2013 just to check, you can hear us clearly.<\/p>\n

Elemer Piros<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Yes, I can.<\/p>\n

Kabir Nath<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Okay, great. Thank you. So, no, thank you for the question. And I think, yes, you raise a couple of very important points here around the CPT code. So, I think, first, let\u2019s understand that, as I said, there are existing codes that can account for preparation and integration. Those fall within the normal range of psychotherapy sessions. But we recognized a long time ago that in terms of a six to eight-hour administration session or, in the case of MAPS, multiple sessions of therapy associated with MDMA that there were not the appropriate codes to cover that. And it, therefore, became a priority for us, working together to establish that.<\/p>\n

Recognize this is a CPT III code, but this enables physicians and other HCPs to track the work that\u2019s involved, the activities that are required, and it\u2019s really a central precursor to converting that ultimately into a CPT I code that can be reimbursed.<\/p>\n

And I think for \u2013 for Johnson perhaps the recognition that the Spravato sessions under the REMS would require this monitoring period, which was different from anything else that was available at the time, was something that came a little later in the process. And again, we \u2013 we\u2019re grateful to have had the opportunity to learn from that.<\/p>\n

For the second part of your question, as you said, esketamine does require multiple administrations in the first month and, thereafter, at regular intervals. And that\u2019s not surprising given the relatively short duration of effect. Obviously, during our Phase 3, we\u2019re going to generate evidence around durability, around the impact of retreatment, and that will give a sense also of when retreatment might be expected.<\/p>\n

But certainly, we saw from the Phase 2B a lasting effect for a significant number of patients even at 12 weeks, and we have some modest data that suggests it can go longer than that. So, we would expect a much less frequent administration for COMP360 than you need to see for esketamine. And we believe that that will also translate into a lower burden not only for patients critically, but also for providers and treatment centers as well.<\/p>\n

And finally, yes, as you \u2013 as you mentioned, Janssen broke out for the first time Spravato sales this year, a few years into the launch. Let\u2019s recognize, though, the launch did come just ahead of the pandemic, which put all sorts of challenges into pharmaceutical drug launches. But I think the fact that you saw over $100 million of sales in the U.S. in the first quarter with a strong growth trajectory is very encouraging for us in a couple of different ways. It shows, first, that despite some initial skepticism about the efficacy and clinical trials, physicians have become very used to working with esketamine and are actually seeing real-world evidence of efficacy. That\u2019s perhaps the patient acceptance that\u2019s strong.<\/p>\n

I think, critically, it speaks to the fact that the infrastructure has developed significantly since the launch, not just in terms of interventional psychiatry centers, and we\u2019ve talked in the past about some of those standalone centers, but also in the fact that other psychiatry practices, other academic, and hospital settings have become much more used to the fact that this is a treatment paradigm that\u2019s here to stay. And we would expect much of that infrastructure to be relevant to us at COMPASS for psilocybin as well. So, overall, I think we take strong encouragement from that and the fact that they\u2019ve identified that as a growth driver.<\/p>\n

Elemer Piros<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Yes, thank you very much. At what point \u2013 I know it\u2019s too early in the launch, but at what point would you be able to project enrollment rates. And for now, you reiterated the previous guidance for completion of both of those \u2013 both of the pivotal trials. Shall we expect that towards the end of this year or when you have a little more confidence on the trajectory?<\/p>\n

Kabir Nath<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Yes, it\u2019s a fair question. I would just say definitely not yet, and I don\u2019t want to give a commitment to when we would do that. As I said, we have patients dosed in both trials. As Guy mentioned, the fact that we are well on the way to building the trial infrastructure with more sites coming on board and so on is very encouraging. But I don\u2019t want to promise a date at which we will actually give enrollment numbers or percentages enrolled. But for now, given where we are, we are confident as we did in reiterating those timings for the primary endpoints.<\/p>\n

Elemer Piros<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Thank you so much, Kabir.<\/p>\n

Kabir Nath<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Thanks, Elemer.<\/p>\n

Operator<\/strong><\/p>\n

One moment for our next question. Our next question comes the line of Charles Duncan from Cantor. Your line is open.<\/p>\n

Charles Duncan<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Hey, good morning, Kabir and team. Thanks for taking the question and congrats on the progress. I did have a question regarding the ongoing Phase 3s. So, maybe you\u2019re not going to be able to answer them, but I\u2019m wondering if you could provide more color on the FDA interactions. You said they\u2019re active, thoughtful dialogue, but I guess I\u2019m assuming no modification in the primary or secondary endpoints.<\/p>\n

And then, perhaps if I could speak to the pacing of the trial, great to see that you\u2019ve made some progress in terms of patient enrollment. But I\u2019m wondering if the biggest, call it, rate limiter for this trial is site opening or is it patient access and availability of appropriate patients? Thanks.<\/p>\n

Kabir Nath<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Thanks, Charles. And I\u2019ll actually ask Guy to take both of those parts if that\u2019s okay.<\/p>\n

Guy Goodwin<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Yes. We, as you know, Charles, there\u2019s no change in primary outcomes, and there\u2019s no fundamental change in the design of the studies as a result of our to and fro with the agency. We\u2019re well on track, as far as we\u2019re concerned, with recruitment at the moment.<\/p>\n

You ask an interesting question because it falls into different Phases of the studies. At the beginning, the limiting step is simply a site initiation. That takes time. It takes things to happen which are quite beyond anyone\u2019s control, well, beyond the control of us and of the investigators, which are things like EMA licenses [we see our license coming]. We are obviously plotting and we have modeled the rate at which patients will be recruited.<\/p>\n

And I would simply say that, as far as our simulations of the future go and as far as we can be confident in the way we\u2019ve achieved opening so far, we\u2019re looking \u2013 looking very good. Obviously, we expect that once all the sites are open, then there will be different considerations around what limits recruitment. But we anticipate the demand for entry into the studies to be unusually positive for most \u2013 compared to most depression studies. And we know from feedback we have had from the site, that\u2019s certainly true in some centers.<\/p>\n

So we look forward to seeing the results of that. We\u2019ll be tracking it very carefully. And of course, it\u2019s the key metric for us over the next 12 months to see that rise in recruitment. And we\u2019re happy that we\u2019ll be able to do that, and give you some indication of our happiness with it. But we\u2019re going to be careful about numbers because they can be misleading and they can be misunderstood.<\/p>\n

Charles Duncan<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Yes, absolutely. Fair on that and appreciate it. Regarding anorexia nervosa, quite intrigued with that, happy to hear that it\u2019s kind of back on track. Can you provide any additional information on the actual amended procedures or how they were amended or what is perhaps changed \u2013 change of vector on that trial versus last quarter?<\/p>\n

Guy Goodwin<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

There were quite minor amendments to the protocol. I mean, unfortunately, that takes time. They were really to do with the \u2013 the visit burden on patients and just the preparedness of patients to participate in the study. You\u2019ll appreciate that randomized clinical trials are not like ordinary practice. They place unusual demands on the subjects who participate.<\/p>\n

And I think that the need for in-person visits, in particular, was something that was too demanding in the initial stages. And we felt no reason for not changing because it didn\u2019t materially affect how the study would run or the results. So, it\u2019s been a simplification of the trial design. It\u2019s not a fundamental change in the actual objectives or the questions that it will answer.<\/p>\n

Charles Duncan<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Okay, that\u2019s helpful. Last question for Mike, quickly on the ATM that was noted a large block trade, you may not be able to fully answer this. But I\u2019m wondering if you could characterize the investor, obviously, not a certain identity, but maybe an investing type or whether or not they had previously held a position. Any additional information that you could provide there? Thanks.<\/p>\n

Mike Falvey<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

So \u2013 because the investment came in through the ATM, I\u2019m a little bit limited on the information that I can provide. I would point out that if you go back and look at trading volumes earlier in the quarter, it\u2019s pretty clear when that happened and the size of it. And I can characterize the investor.<\/p>\n

We\u2019ve spoken on prior calls that we\u2019ve been working pretty intensively to bring biotech specialists, sophisticated investors into the register, not only to support us with our current financing needs, but investors who are going to understand the fact that we\u2019re going to be coming back additionally in the future as we get closer to commercialization and as we build for a successful launch.<\/p>\n

So, those conversations continue, and we continue to make progress. And I\u2019d say that this investor would fall into that realm of the investing universe that we\u2019ve been working closely with.<\/p>\n

Charles Duncan<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

It makes sense sequentially funding the company I\u2019ve seen with other neuro innovators. So, should work here, too. Thanks for taking my questions.<\/p>\n

Kabir Nath<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Sure. Thanks, Charles.<\/p>\n

Operator<\/strong><\/p>\n

One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Frank Brisebois from Oppenheimer. Your line is open.<\/p>\n

Frank Brisebois<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Hi, Thanks for taking the question. Just in terms of the reimbursement, can you just \u2013 we \u2013 in a prior question, Spravato was brought up quite a bit. And I\u2019m just wondering, just for those that might not be aware, what coding do they use? Is it \u2013 and this G code that \u2013 is that \u2013 how different is that from a CPT I? And just maybe understanding the \u2013 for investors here, the difference here between the G codes, CPT I, and CPT III, and then maybe what kind of additional color could we be expecting in July here? Thank you.<\/p>\n

Kabir Nath<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Yes, no, thank you, Frank, it\u2019s a great question. So, the first thing I will say is since these codes are only going to be published in July, we\u2019re actually not going to talk in very much detail about what we expect to see in them or what they will actually cover until after that because the AMA would not like us to do so.<\/p>\n

I think what I would focus on is what we have done here, which is acknowledging that, for psilocybin specifically, this six to eight-hour administration is a unique model of psychological support for which nothing existed. And the idea of stringing together multiple codes to do that would clearly be unappealing to providers not necessarily feasible and also would not give any consistency. That\u2019s the reason that we actually focused, therefore, on obtaining this code.<\/p>\n

I think what Janssen is doing is using a variety of different codes. It is a different model of support as you\u2019re aware. It is post-administration monitoring as opposed to support during administration, and they have been able to use a number of different codes.<\/p>\n

I think more we would like to hold till after the summer when we can talk more about the CPT code and then get into some of the different mechanisms for payment because, obviously, there are some areas where we\u2019re seeing bundled payment across the drug and provision of services, some areas where we\u2019re seeing that separated. And I think we\u2019re very happy to get into more discussion around that once the details of the code are out and published.<\/p>\n

Frank Brisebois<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Thank you.<\/p>\n

Operator<\/strong><\/p>\n

One moment for next question. Our next question comes online of Joshua Schimmer from Evercore ISI. Your line is open.<\/p>\n

Joshua Schimmer<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Thanks for taking my question. For \u2013 just coming back to the CPT codes. They go into effect January 1st, that means that is when the resource consumption analysis will begin. And over what time does that occur? And when do final codes and reimbursement likely go into place? And then, if it\u2019s going to be done for both MAPS and COMPASS, how do the codes reconcile differences between the resource consumption that may exist between the two products? Thank you.<\/p>\n

Kabir Nath<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Thanks, Josh, for the question. So, on the latter part once we see details of the code, I think that will make it clear some of the answers to the second part of the question. For the first part, there is no fixed timeline from which the CPT III code grows up, shall we say, to become a CPT I code.<\/p>\n

What happens is that from January the 1st, it will be available to be used for tracking activities. And what\u2019s important is that there is adoption, that there is good experience, there also that the data that we continue to generate through the trials. The data that MAPS may start to generate in the real world supports strong evidence of efficacy and so on. And again, there is a process of building that body of evidence, as you say, starting to actually construct the value elements of it. But there is no fixed time frame for this becoming reimbursable.<\/p>\n

Obviously, by doing this well in advance of where we may be able to launch, it is our hope and expectation that we will be able to have something that is reimbursable at or very close to launch, but that\u2019s going to depend on continuing efforts by us, by MAP, and potentially, others from January of next year.<\/p>\n

Joshua Schimmer<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Okay, got it. And then, now that you\u2019ve seen an uptick in enrollment in the anorexia trial, when do you expect to be in a position to report data?<\/p>\n

Guy Goodwin<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

I think, to be honest, that we based this on a recruitment curve. We\u2019re still at the stage of developing that curve to see where it will saturate, where it will get to the required numbers, so it would be premature to give a date just at this minute. But we\u2019re confident that we\u2019re on track to complete the study and the exact timing we will release when we\u2019re more confident about it.<\/p>\n

Joshua Schimmer<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Okay, thank you.<\/p>\n

Kabir Nath<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Thanks, Josh.<\/p>\n

Operator<\/strong><\/p>\n

One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Patrick Trucchio from H.C. Wainwright. Your line is open.<\/p>\n

Patrick Trucchio<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Thanks. Good morning. Just a quick follow-up on the potential commercialization. As we look ahead to the potential commercialization of COMP360, I\u2019m wondering if you could frame for us what a potential REMS program it could entail and if it would be similar to Spravato, or would there be some important differences we should be aware of? And how could this, in some way, help streamline the launch of COMP360?<\/p>\n

Kabir Nath<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Thanks, Patrick. I guess it\u2019s a little premature to speculate on the shape of the REMS because also, to a large extent, that will follow the label on what\u2019s in the label in terms of what\u2019s in the REMS. But, yes, I think we can be clear that we do expect the REMS with \u2013 which I would expect to be the key element being attached to the elements to assure safe use.<\/p>\n

Those are clearly going to require, I would expect essentially distribution through specialist pharmacies to treatment centers for a given patient with the indication and so on clear. It will require physician certification and so on. Beyond that, in terms of the scope and what we may end up negotiating with the FDA around the actual elements, honestly, I think it\u2019s premature.<\/p>\n

Patrick Trucchio<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Yes, that\u2019s really helpful. And then, I\u2019m just wondering if you can talk about the level of interest or acceptance in psychedelic therapy, specifically among the neuropsychiatric leaders and clinical trial investigators. How have these views changed, particularly as we had more data published including from the COMP360 Phase 2B trial? And how do you view this evolution as progressing as we approach the Phase 3 readout next year for COMP360?<\/p>\n

Guy Goodwin<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Thanks, Patrick. I think it\u2019s \u2013 it \u2013 within the academic sites, there\u2019s a certain \u2013 there\u2019s a mixture. Some people still think that the commercialization will be difficult. But in a sense, it\u2019s not university sites opinion that\u2019s really going to matter in that. It\u2019s really to do with the kind of relationships we build with more commercial providers.<\/p>\n

So, I think that the impressions I get certainly are there\u2019s great enthusiasm for the idea, and there\u2019s really very little pushback on our interpretation of the data. The enthusiasts for this area, I think, it\u2019s going to be great and are really positive about it. But we have to recognize that many of the sites who are doing the trials are not necessarily all going to be commercially active.<\/p>\n

But I think, overall, the feeling is that there\u2019s a lot of enthusiasm within the profession for this approach. And there\u2019s a lot of acceptance that there needs to be changes to allow it to happen. And I think that\u2019s very important.<\/p>\n

And I think the final thing is that this is going to be an opportunity for patients who have not currently receiving adequate treatment actually to get it because I think there\u2019s going to be a move to not leave people in primary care inadequately treated, not receiving the kind of additional treatments that sometimes work. And this will provide an attraction, I think, for getting those sort of patients who are currently not being treated into treatment.<\/p>\n

And I think a lot of psychiatrists recognize that, and we\u2019ll certainly be \u2013 as we go forward, we\u2019ll be driving along with the key opinion leaders that particular message, that this is an area that is not only failure of treatment, but really not offering adequate treatment to people.<\/p>\n

Kabir Nath<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Yes, and I would just add, we\u2019re starting to engage with regional health systems, not necessarily household names, not the big ones you\u2019ve heard of, but regional health systems that are seeing significant numbers of patients that are already offering TMS, Spravato, in some cases, ECT.<\/p>\n

And the level of excitement there and interest is extremely high. They are very interested to see how they can add this as another option for certain patients, both existing patients who are not benefiting from current treatments, but also as Guy said, extending it to other patients. So, again, early days. Obviously, we don\u2019t want to go too fast with that, but we are, as I say, starting to engage with a number of those and getting a lot of very positive feedback.<\/p>\n

Patrick Trucchio<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Terrific. Thank you so much.<\/p>\n

Operator<\/strong><\/p>\n

One moment for our next question. Next question comes from the line of Ritu Baral from Cowen. Your line is open.<\/p>\n

Ritu Baral<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. I apologize for my voice this morning. About the CPT code, can you clarify when the information gathering for resource utilization exactly begins? Kabir, I think you and I have talked about this, and I believe it covers the administration session, but I\u2019m wondering, is there a possibility that it might capture the prep session? Would you want to create a different CPT code for that prep session, or do you think \u2013 and the consolidation session? Or do you think that existing codes would cover prep and consolidation? And then, I have a follow-up. Thank you.<\/p>\n

Kabir Nath<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Thanks, Ritu. So, yes, our belief is that existing codes can follow, it can support preparation and integration, and the need, the gap was code or codes that could cover the administration. I think it\u2019s also important to acknowledge, obviously, in a trial setting, it is the same therapist for preparation and administration and integration.<\/p>\n

In a real-world commercial setting, you can well see that a patient may have an existing relationship with a therapist who would actually be involved in the preparation and integration sessions, and the support required during the administration would come from a different provider. And that\u2019s a model that we may well see emerge. So, in that context as well, our focus really was on the novel piece, the gap that existed for this extended administration.<\/p>\n

Ritu Baral<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

So, it\u2019s just this \u2013 CPT code will just be the administration session from the start?<\/p>\n

Kabir Nath<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

So, again, let\u2019s wait for July and see the details of \u2013 and it\u2019s actually three codes, not just one. We can\u2019t go into any more detail now, but let\u2019s wait for that and see it. And in terms of when it can start, as we said, it\u2019s the 1st of January \u201824. So, that\u2019s the point from which people can start to use this code to track activities, to track what\u2019s actually happening during these sessions.<\/p>\n

Ritu Baral<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Understood. And then just moving to anorexia, you mentioned changes to promote enrollment challenge \u2013 because of challenges in patients through screening. Can you describe some of those changes to the protocol? And do you believe that \u2013 excuse me, do you believe those changes will result in any mature changes in the patient population than you originally projected? Thanks for taking the questions.<\/p>\n

Guy Goodwin<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Thanks, Ritu. I don\u2019t think it\u2019ll change in patient population because this is a fairly defined condition, as I\u2019m sure, you know. I mean, the issues really were around patient burden and participation in the study. And I guess we had assumed that the patients would be more tolerant of that leading from our experience with TRD. And I think, quite simply, many of the patients with anorexia nervosa are more ambivalent about treatment. And so, that additional burden, I think, may have served as a barrier.<\/p>\n

By burden, I simply mean having to turn up for multiple visits in person, which were not strictly necessary but, in a sense, were simply put down because that is the way we had previously done studies, and there is a tendency to trust in face-to-face assessments more than remote ones.<\/p>\n

And there\u2019s no real reason to do that when someone\u2019s not dealing with the primary outcomes, and therefore, we modified the protocol to allow more remote assessment. We don\u2019t think that reduces the quality of the information we will get materially. It doesn\u2019t change the outcomes. And the key measurements of outcome will remain in person and, therefore, will be the same as originally planned. So, the changes are relatively modest, but they may make a surprising difference. And we will obviously hope that they do and keep you updated on when they do.<\/p>\n

Ritu Baral<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Thanks for taking the questions.<\/p>\n

Guy Goodwin<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Pleasure.<\/p>\n

Operator<\/strong><\/p>\n

One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Neena Bitritto-Garg from Citi. Your line is open.<\/p>\n

Neena Bitritto-Garg<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Hey, guys, thanks for taking my question. I remember, last time on the last earnings call, you mentioned the addition of Part B and Part C to both Phase 3 TRD studies. And I was just wondering if you could share at this point what the retreatment criteria are in those two parts. I know Part B, I think, has optional retreatment. And then, part 3, I believe, is based on a relapse. So if you can just provide us with the actual criteria for both of those, that\u2019d be great.<\/p>\n

Guy Goodwin<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Yes, I mean the criteria for retreatment are essentially that patients have a MADRS above a certain threshold, and that threshold will be a threshold at 20 on the total score.<\/p>\n

Neena Bitritto-Garg<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Okay. And it\u2019s the same in both Part B and Part C?<\/p>\n

Guy Goodwin<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

It\u2019s the same in both parts, yes.<\/p>\n

Neena Bitritto-Garg<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Okay, that\u2019s helpful. Awesome. Thank you.<\/p>\n

Guy Goodwin<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Pleasure.<\/p>\n

Operator<\/strong><\/p>\n

One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Sumant Kulkarni from Canaccord. Your line is open.<\/p>\n

Sumant Kulkarni<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Good morning or afternoon for some of you. Thanks for taking my questions. So, in the past, you\u2019ve said that there would be no interim analysis for COMP 005. Is that still the case? And if there is no interim analysis, do you plan to provide any efficacy updates on a blinded basis? And when could one expect those relative to the top line data in the summer of 2024?<\/p>\n

Kabir Nath<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Yes, so, Sumant, I think your question was do we plan an interim analysis, and the answer remains no. And, no, we should not expect to know anything before summer of 2024.<\/p>\n

Sumant Kulkarni<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Got it. And then, could you specifically compare the in-person support services during psychedelic therapy that may be needed for COMP360 versus MAPS, which is specifically characterized as MDMA-assisted therapy? Obviously, these are different treatments and indications, but I\u2019m trying to get a relative sense of the reimbursement burden.<\/p>\n

Kabir Nath<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

So, let me start and Guy may jump in. I mean, so, a psilocybin session, as we know, consists of \u2013 for a patient, there is preparation. There is the actual administration session itself, which is six to eight hours and there is integration. As you know, in Phase 2B, we studied one dose. In the Phase 3, we have both the two-dose study in the core part of the protocol, as well as the single dose.<\/p>\n

But as just reference, we do have an option for retreatment on relapse or failure to remit in Part B and then again in Part C. So that is kind of the burden for us from a psilocybin perspective. The MDMA protocol from recollection is that 12 therapy sessions, including three doses of MDMA, I think that\u2019s correct, yes.<\/p>\n

Guy Goodwin<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

I think it\u2019s refer to \u2013 the interactions that take place on the therapy days with the drug are quite intense. The drug is sometimes described as a \u2013 as producing greater empathy and, therefore, more communication with \u2013 between people. That contrasts with psilocybin where, on the day of administration at the doses we are using, 25 milligrams, the patients are essentially inwardly guided. They\u2019re not interacting with the therapist, and in fact, the therapists are instructed not to interact with the patients other than to help them to, in a sense, remain focused on their internal journey, the words that are usually used.<\/p>\n

So there\u2019s a great difference in the way we should be thinking about the role of psychotherapy. Psychotherapy is a key part of the MDMA treatment. It is not a key part of the psilocybin treatment. And that\u2019s why we have used the term psychological support where the emphasis is really on safety and safeguarding. And it is not on, essentially, a treatment of a psychotherapeutic kind.<\/p>\n

Sumant Kulkarni<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Understood. And once the CPT code goes live in 2024, is there any potential for approved, but off-label products\u2019 ability to utilize this code for therapy sessions?<\/p>\n

Guy Goodwin<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

It\u2019s a good question. I guess at the discretion of the provider, yes, but I\u2019m actually not entirely sure.<\/p>\n

Sumant Kulkarni<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Thank you.<\/p>\n

Operator<\/strong><\/p>\n

Thank you. And with no further questions in the queue, I\u2019d like to turn the call back over to management for any closer remarks.<\/p>\n

Kabir Nath<\/strong><\/p>\n

Thank you very much. So, once again, thank you, everyone, for your participation, and thank you for the questions as well. Just a reminder, we are making excellent progress on our Phase 3 trials for treatment-resistant depression, as well as continuing to build the body of evidence for COMP360 more generally.<\/p>\n

We\u2019re excited, obviously, about the CPT III code. We\u2019re excited about the validation externally that you see from Spravato as well in terms of momentum. And we believe we\u2019re also making strong strides towards demonstrating a commercial value proposition for COMP360. So, thanks, everyone. Have a good rest of the day.<\/p>\n

Operator<\/strong><\/p>\n

This concludes today\u2019s conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect. Everyone, have a good day.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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