{"id":8037,"date":"2023-05-12T22:56:45","date_gmt":"2023-05-13T02:56:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/news\/dynatronics-corporation-dynt-q3-2023-earnings-call-transcript\/"},"modified":"2023-05-12T22:56:46","modified_gmt":"2023-05-13T02:56:46","slug":"dynatronics-corporation-dynt-q3-2023-earnings-call-transcript","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/?p=8037","title":{"rendered":"Dynatronics Corporation (DYNT) Q3 2023 Earnings Call Transcript"},"content":{"rendered":"<div data-test-id=\"content-container\">\n<p>Dynatronics Corporation (<span class=\"ticker-hover-wrapper\">NASDAQ:DYNT<\/span>) Q3 2023 Earnings Conference Call May 11, 2023 8:00 AM ET<\/p>\n<p><strong>Company Participants<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>John Krier &#8211; President, Chief Executive Officer and Principal Financial Officer<\/p>\n<p><strong>Conference Call Participants<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Brooks O&#8217;Neil &#8211; Lake Street Capital Markets<\/p>\n<p>Jeffrey Cohen &#8211; Ladenburg Thalmann &amp; Co. Inc.<\/p>\n<p>Scott Henry &#8211; ROTH Capital Partners, LLC<\/p>\n<p><strong>Operator<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Thank you for standing by. This is the conference operator. Welcome to the Dynatronics Third Quarter Results for Fiscal 2023 Conference Call. As a reminder, all participants are in listen-only mode, and the conference is being recorded. After the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions]\n<p>I would now like to turn the conference over to John Krier, President and CEO of Dynatronics. Please go ahead.<\/p>\n<p><strong>John Krier<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Dynatronics\u2019 third quarter earnings call.<\/p>\n<p>Before we begin, I will call your attention to our safe harbor statement found on Slide 2. I remind you that the discussions during this conference call will include forward-looking statements. Factors that could cause actual results to differ materially are discussed in the company\u2019s most recent filings with the SEC. We caution you not to place undue reliance on forward-looking statements we may make this morning. We undertake no obligation to update or revise forward-looking statements.<\/p>\n<p>During our prepared remarks, we will be referring to slides that are available for viewing in the webcast and posted on our Investor Center page at dynatronics.com.<\/p>\n<p>On today\u2019s call, we will cover the highlights and achievements of the third quarter of fiscal year 2023 as well as provide commentary on the financials, and then we will have the operator open the phone lines for questions from our analysts.<\/p>\n<p>Slide 3 highlights key takeaways for Dynatronics\u2019 third quarter of fiscal year 2023. I want to begin<span class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\"> by highlighting three external market events, which have impacted us this quarter. First, competitive acquisitions by one of our rehabilitation customers; second, a reduction of specific SKUs from an OEM bracing customer; and finally, general market choppiness have caused us to reexamine our assumptions for the back half of fiscal year 2023.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Net sales are expected to be $7.5 million to $8.5 million for Q4 of fiscal year 2023 and $39.5 million to $40.5 million for the full fiscal year. As I have stated earlier and despite any external events, we remain firmly focused on gross margin improvement. Due to the external market events, we now anticipate lower revenue in our fiscal fourth quarter than previously planned. However, that has not changed. In fact, it heightens the focus on continued gross margin expansion. In Q3, despite lower revenue, Dynatronics delivered a gross margin of 23.9% versus 22.4% in the prior year.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Finally, we have made significant cost structure changes and reductions in response to the lower anticipated revenue. Using the baseline run rate of costs through March 2023, we have made approximately $1.5 million to $2 million of cost reductions to selling, general and administrative expenses to be realized in fiscal year 2024.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Moving to Slide 4. As a reminder, the full income statement and management discussion and analysis can be found in the 10-Q. I will summarize some of the key financials here. Net sales were $9.2 million for the third quarter of fiscal year \u201823 compared to net sales of $10.3 million in the prior year period.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Gross profit for the quarter was $2.2 million, or as I noted earlier, 23.9% of net sales compared to $2.3 million or 22.4% of net sales in the same period the prior year. The increase in gross profit as a percentage of net sales was driven by the continued combination of net price realization and better overall product mix. We remain cautious about the external outlook and have modeled cost pressures to continue for the remainder of calendar 2023.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Selling, general and administrative expenses decreased $0.3 million or 8.1% to $3.4 million for the quarter ended March 31, 2023, compared to $3.7 million for the quarter ended March 31, 2022. Reductions in salaries and benefits were the primary drivers of the decrease.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Net loss for Q3 fiscal year \u201823 was $1.2 million compared to a net loss of $1.5 million in the same period of fiscal year 2022. Outstanding shares will increase approximately 120,000 per quarter, depending on our share price. The approximately 120,000 shares per quarter is based on a share price of $1.40 per share. The net cash balance was approximately $0.7 million on March 31, 2023, the same as on June 30, 2022.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">We reduced our inventory balance by approximately $2.4 million from our June 2022 levels to $9.7 million. We will continue to strategically optimize our inventory while preparing for new product introductions and seasonal demands in our upcoming quarters.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Cash generated by operating activities was $0.4 million for the first nine months of our fiscal year 2023, which compares to cash used by operating activities of $3.3 million in the same nine months of the prior year. This concludes our summary of the financial and operating results.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Turning to Slide 5. As stated earlier, gross margin expansion remains a key focus. Gross margin increased to 23.9% in Q3, a 1.5 percentage point increase from the prior year gross margin of 22.4%. Sequentially, the decrease in gross margin of 4.2 percentage points from Q2 reflects the customer disruption previously discussed, coupled with macroeconomic supply chain challenges.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">We are continuing to execute against our 6-point gross margin plan. Number one, price rationalization; number two, rationalized product; three, new product introductions; four, manufacturing efficiencies; five, revenue scale; and six, mergers and acquisitions.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Slide 6 provides the fiscal year \u201823 guidance details. I discussed our net sales guidance range for fiscal year \u201823 of $39.5 million to $40.5 million. Effectively, we have reset the baseline net sales performance to approximately $9.25 million per quarter and align the performance to our historical seasonality trends. Historical seasonality trends tend to be highest in the first and fourth quarters of our fiscal year.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">The company is continuing its recent trend of not providing forward-looking gross margin guidance due to the choppy nature of the business transformation and the impact of the noted external events. We anticipate selling, general and administrative expenses of 35% to 40% of net sales in Q4 of fiscal year \u201823.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">As we move through the upcoming quarters, we expect to continually leverage and improve our scale on this SG&amp;A cost base and return to our targeted range of 30% to 35% of net sales in fiscal year \u201824. This guidance is based on our current operations and is subject to the risk factors and other forward-looking statements and uncertainties contained in this presentation and in our filings with the SEC.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Turning to Slide 7. Refreshing our product portfolio is a key part of our growth plan. The Dynatronics team has reached approximately 6% of revenue coming from products released in the past three years and has been able to maintain this level for four consecutive quarters.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Slide 8 shows the investment highlights for Dynatronics. The markets we serve, rehabilitation and bracing have opportunities for Dynatronics to expand its product profiles. We target improvement in gross margin in the coming quarters despite the revenue disruption and overall macroeconomic environment.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">We have approximately $0.7 million of cash and $9.7 million of inventory on the balance sheet at the end of March with no debt. Dynatronics has not borrowed against its asset base of inventory or accounts receivable since July 2020, representing 11 consecutive quarters of no debt.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Dynatronics is focused on ensuring financial flexibility by evaluating additional working capital reductions, a possible asset-based line of credit and potentially using our ATM facility as appropriate. We will continue to share our progress and updates as we move through our fiscal year 2023.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">I will now turn it over for questions.<\/p>\n<p id=\"question-answer-session\" class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>Question-and-Answer Session<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>Operator<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Brooks O\u2019Neil of Lake Street Capital Markets. Please go ahead.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"question\">Brooks O\u2019Neil<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Good morning, John. I\u2019m hoping perhaps you could give us just a little bit more color on the specific customer. I mean I don\u2019t need to know the name of the customer, but I\u2019m just curious, the nature of the \u2013 of what happened to disrupt your business with these customers.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"answer\">John Krier<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Not a problem. Good morning, Brooks. When we look at the revenue and the disruption that we faced, it\u2019s really a tale of two stories. We did have an acquisition of \u2013 by a customer of ours of one of our competitors in our rehabilitation space. And so that\u2019s our Hausmann brands, that\u2019s our Dynatronics brands of therapeutic modalities.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">And if you look at it quarter-over-quarter, our bracing product category was roughly flat, and that\u2019s despite being impacted by some of our OEM business and some disruption in that part of the channel. Where we had the significant disruption in terms of quarter-over-quarter was in our Rehabilitation segment, and that\u2019s where you see the fact that a significant customer is now vertically integrating with a competitor of ours. So that\u2019s really the disruption that\u2019s there, that appeared in the quarter, and we\u2019re planning for that moving forward as well to be disruptive.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"question\">Brooks O\u2019Neil<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Okay. And just help me with the bracing. Did they just \u2013 customer just eliminate some line items?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"answer\">John Krier<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">That\u2019s correct. These are customers that have looked \u2013 historically, ordered certain products from us that we also sell under our Bird &amp; Cronin brand, and they made the decision to eliminate and streamline those through their portfolio.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"question\">Brooks O\u2019Neil<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Okay. And then second question is, did any of that as well as sort of the general macro uncertainty change your assessment of your ability to sell down the inventory you\u2019re holding?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"answer\">John Krier<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">It does not change that assessment. The good part about our inventory, because we built it up over the last year, going from $6.5 million to $12 million and now down to $9.7 million, it\u2019s very fresh inventory. It\u2019s inventory that can continue to be sold through our customer base. If anything, it might provide us an opportunity to potentially reduce it more over time. But it\u2019s still our inventory, our manufactured products, very healthy and does not impact our ability to sell through it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"question\">Brooks O\u2019Neil<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Great. And then one last question. I\u2019m just curious, as you think about new product activity, are there any specific highlights you\u2019d offer that might give us some encouragement about the future and your opportunity to grow your business?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"answer\">John Krier<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Yes. The good part about what we\u2019ve done with nine new product releases since the early part of 2021, and all of those products are doing well in the marketplace. They\u2019re very much accepted. Our brands are still healthy and strong with where we compete. So that opportunity still exists to refresh the product portfolio, introduce new products like we did with the Mammoth collection.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">And that\u2019s really \u2013 what we\u2019ve seen up to this year is our growth in the rehabilitation side of our business was driven by our new products, and that\u2019s where we had leaned into all of our investment and with the decline quarter-over-quarter in revenue, when you have an acquisition in that space. We\u2019ve said before, we also need to expand that product introductions into the bracing segment, which will continue to refresh that portfolio as well. So we\u2019re certainly still excited about the opportunity that we have to refresh our products.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"question\">Brooks O\u2019Neil<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Great. Thank you very much for taking my questions.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"answer\">John Krier<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Thank you, Brooks.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>Operator<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Our next question comes from Jeffrey Cohen of Ladenburg Thalmann. Please go ahead.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"question\">Jeffrey Cohen<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Hey, John, good morning. How are you?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"answer\">John Krier<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Good, good. Good morning, Jeff.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"question\">Jeffrey Cohen<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">A couple of questions. So on Slide 5, you\u2019d talked about a facility build plan. Could you elaborate on that, please?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"answer\">John Krier<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Yes. So if we take a look at from a manufacturing efficiency perspective, we\u2019re continuing to ensure that we get our facilities rightsized for the revenue that\u2019s coming through them. That\u2019s going to allow us to improve our manufacturing efficiencies, and it\u2019s one element of our gross margin plan.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"question\">Jeffrey Cohen<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Okay, got it. And could you talk a little bit about \u2013 is this a follow-on to the business transformation largely from last year? Or is this a 2023 business transformation?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"answer\">John Krier<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">I would look at it as a resetting and more of a 2023 business transformation. Back in 2021, what we said was we want to focus on our own manufactured products. So we eliminated our third-party distributed products that were at the lower end of our margin profile. And then as we continued up to this point, that has continued to be our pace. So that part of the strategy is not changing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">However, given the fact that one of our customers is now vertically integrating greater, that\u2019s going to impact our revenue going forward. And so we have to plan for that and that\u2019s where we\u2019re resetting it. So it\u2019s a bit of a continuation of what we did in April \u201821, but resetting the revenue expectation because of those competitive acquisitions.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"question\">Jeffrey Cohen<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Okay, got it. And one more on the product side. Could you talk a little bit about the difference between the Solaris platform and the 25 Series, the 925 series?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"answer\">John Krier<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Yes. The biggest strength about the Solaris platform, which is our most sought after product is the ability to have our accessories. That\u2019s our ThermoStim products. It\u2019s our light therapy products. Very well received in the athletic training room and the physical training centers out there. Those are not available in our 25 Series models. Our 25 Series models tend to be our entry, if you will, into our combination units, but our Solaris is what our customers really demand out there. They\u2019re our highest running products, and it\u2019s based on those accessories.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"question\">Jeffrey Cohen<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">And the ASP differential is Solaris 2x or 3x the price of the 25 Series?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"answer\">John Krier<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">It is not 2 or 3x. That sort of pricing elasticity doesn\u2019t exist in our market, but it does command a premium ASP compared to the baseline series.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"question\">Jeffrey Cohen<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Okay, got it. And Solaris comes with the ability to purchase more than one handset, handpiece?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"answer\">John Krier<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">It does. It does.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"question\">Jeffrey Cohen<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Okay. Perfect. That does it for us. Thank for taking the questions.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"answer\">John Krier<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Thank you, Jeff.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>Operator<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Our next question comes from Scott Henry of ROTH Capital. Please go ahead.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"question\">Scott Henry<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Thank you, and good morning. I just want to follow up on a few of Brooks questions, just a little more detail. So the first issue was one of your customers was acquired by a competitor, which vertically integrated in. What percent of sales was that customer of your total sales, or approximate?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"answer\">John Krier<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Yes, we do not disclose the \u2013 yes, the approximate \u2013 it\u2019s significant customers the way that I would term it, Scott. So it\u2019s going to have an impact on our revenue and something that we\u2019re going to have to plan for going forward.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"question\">Scott Henry<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">By significant, would you say greater than 5%?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"answer\">John Krier<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">I wouldn\u2019t say a number specifically, but I would say that it\u2019s less than 10%, and it\u2019s going to be in the single digits.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"question\">Scott Henry<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Okay. All right. That\u2019s helpful. And then another customer reduced the number of SKUs on the bracing. Would you put that as about the same magnitude of impact as the first issue? Just trying to get some quantitative metrics around each of these events.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"answer\">John Krier<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Yes. I would say that it\u2019s going to be less impactful than the first issue, which was one of our customers acquiring a competitor. Overall, in that part of the segment, we\u2019ve been rationalizing our product and our price, which has had an impact in that business year-over-year. And so it will be less than the first issue, but it will still impact us going into our new fiscal year.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"question\">Scott Henry<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Okay. And then the third issue was market choppiness. What do you mean by market choppiness? How should I \u2013 that\u2019s a pretty vague term. Just if you could give us some \u2013 within your sector or overall economically, just how do we think about that term?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"answer\">John Krier<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Yes, I would \u2013 let me put a little more context to it. If we were coming into this fiscal year, we talked about our markets, our customer base, our products tending to grow at the 2%, 3%, 4% year-over-year basis. When you look at the materials we talked about today on our investment highlights on Page 8, we talk about that our customers, our products, our markets we\u2019re competing in are more in line of being flat, sort of 0% to 1%.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">When we look at some of the competitive information that\u2019s out there with public reports of folks like Novus and others in our segments, if you look at their Q4 of the calendar year going into Q1, you\u2019re seeing numbers like 0%, 1%, 2% overall growth.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Now that \u2013 and when I refer to choppiness, but at the same time, we also see some elements of procedure volumes still being in the mid-single digits or patient therapy visits showing up in the mid-single digits. So the choppiness I\u2019m referring to is that there\u2019s no one consistent trend where those patient visits are showing up in demand for products, whether they\u2019d be ours or our competitors at the same level. And that\u2019s what we\u2019re experiencing in our business is trying to understand when is the volume going to show up in our products and when will that choppiness smooth out.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"question\">Scott Henry<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">So if I\u2019m interpreting that correctly, and maybe I am \u2013 I\u2019m not. Are you saying that the pie is growing slower than originally expected?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"answer\">John Krier<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">That is our expectation in our market. That\u2019s what we are seeing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"question\">Scott Henry<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Okay. So the pie is \u2013 now is your market share within that pie as expected? Or is it a little lower or it could even be higher?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"answer\">John Krier<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">It\u2019s \u2013 I would say it\u2019s more \u2013 it\u2019s not materially changed one way or the other in that segment. But we do benefit \u2013 what we\u2019ve talked about up to this point is we should grow at the market rate on its own. And then if we\u2019re taking share, we\u2019ll be able to grow above that. And we\u2019ve been able to do that for every quarter up to this one, which was impacted by this competitive acquisition and this specific customer issue.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">So that\u2019s what we expect going forward. We\u2019re going to have to now take some additional share if we\u2019re going to beat the market. If the market is growing at 0% to 1%, if we want to grow, we\u2019re going to have to take some share. But for right now, I would say that there\u2019s no material change in our share, but we believe that the market pie is sort of flat, if you will, at this point.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"question\">Scott Henry<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Okay, great. And then the final question, which may have some follow-ups to it. The big picture here, $40 million in revenues is a pretty good amount of revenues. The question is, can \u2013 do you believe you\u2019re at scale to be a cash flow positive company at $40 million in revenues? Or does that number need to be higher? Or can you make adjustments? You would think you could be profitable with that size depending on pricing, depending on how competitive you are as far as gross margins. I guess the question stems into what\u2019s the master plan to turn cash flow positive? And what\u2019s the timing on that?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"answer\">John Krier<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Yes. We believe we have to make the reductions in the business or the changes in the business necessary to be cash flow positive at this revenue level. That\u2019s what running a good business looks like to us. We took significant steps in the fourth quarter to do that by reducing our SG&amp;A on the range of $1.5 million to $2 million that will appear in FY \u201824. We still need to expand our gross margin.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">So we are going to operate the company in a manner that will put us on a path to being cash flow positive. I\u2019m not able to give you an exact time line on that, Scott. I think having that appear in FY \u201824 is certainly a target for us. However, we need to make sure that just day-to-day, we\u2019re executing on that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"question\">Scott Henry<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Okay. So when we look at the \u2013 I mean the positive is you\u2019re not losing a lot of money, which is preferred. When we look at EBITDA in 2024, the size of the loss. How should we think about it relative to the current losses or it looks like they\u2019re all generally around $1 million right now, maybe a little higher, maybe a little lower. Do you think those losses will at least maintain those levels? Or might they jump a little bit during this transition?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"answer\">John Krier<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Our expectation, as we move into the new fiscal year, even at this reset revenue level of, call it, $37 million annualized will be that we will reduce the EBITDA loss or targeting to reduce the EBITDA loss in the new fiscal year. If you look at it up to this point, call it, $2 million or so of an EBITDA loss for the year, by making the SG&amp;A reductions that we have made and that we\u2019re targeting, we should be able to reduce that. There\u2019s still uncertainty out there in terms of the choppiness that I mentioned in the market, the flattening of the market. But it is our plan to reduce that going into the new year.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"question\">Scott Henry<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Okay, great. I\u2019m just going to ask one follow-up just out of curiosity because it\u2019s such a buzzword nowadays. Do you think you can utilize AI in your business in any ways to reduce costs?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"answer\">John Krier<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">There may be ways that are out there that are appropriate for our business. But for us, with the products that we have and the products that we compete in, the scale that we have, the number of customer transactions that we have, the single best opportunity for us is just to continue to manufacture quality products, stay lean, run a very clean business for our customers is likely the most successful path for us.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"question\">Scott Henry<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Okay. And does that entail being more of a brand and less of a commodity to some extent? I mean is that how you think about maybe more differentiated, higher-margin products?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"answer\">John Krier<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Yes. We need to just continue to be very relevant in our customers\u2019 minds with our brands. Our brands are roughly 50, 60 years old, very well respected in the markets that we compete in. We\u2019re known for quality. We\u2019re known for quality for cost. We\u2019re going to continue to just deliver those on time, deliver them with qualities. And our customers have said, if you just do that, do the basics, we\u2019re going to reward you, absent these unique events or external events of say an acquisition by one of our customers.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"question\">Scott Henry<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Okay, great. Thank you for taking the questions.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"answer\">John Krier<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Thank you, Scott.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>Operator<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">This concludes the question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Krier for any closing remarks.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>John Krier<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Thank you, operator, and thank you all for your interest in Dynatronics. If you have any further questions, please direct them to ir@dynatronics.com. Have a great day.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>Operator<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">This concludes today\u2019s conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating, and have a pleasant day.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Read the full article <a href=\"https:\/\/seekingalpha.com\/article\/4603935-dynatronics-corporation-dynt-q3-2023-earnings-call-transcript?source=feed_all_articles\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">here<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dynatronics Corporation (NASDAQ:DYNT) Q3 2023 Earnings Conference Call May 11, 2023 8:00 AM ET Company Participants John Krier &#8211; President, Chief Executive Officer and Principal Financial Officer Conference Call Participants Brooks O&#8217;Neil &#8211; Lake Street Capital Markets Jeffrey Cohen &#8211; Ladenburg Thalmann &amp; Co. Inc. Scott Henry &#8211; ROTH Capital Partners, LLC Operator Thank you [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":613,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"gallery","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[236],"tags":[83],"class_list":["post-8037","post","type-post","status-publish","format-gallery","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-news","tag-featured","post_format-post-format-gallery"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v20.6 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Dynatronics Corporation (DYNT) Q3 2023 Earnings Call Transcript | iFintechWorld<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Dynatronics Corporation (NASDAQ:DYNT) Q3 2023 Earnings Conference Call May 11, 2023 8:00 AM ET Company Participants John Krier - President, Chief\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/?p=8037\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Dynatronics Corporation (DYNT) Q3 2023 Earnings Call Transcript | iFintechWorld\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Dynatronics Corporation (NASDAQ:DYNT) Q3 2023 Earnings Conference Call May 11, 2023 8:00 AM ET Company Participants John Krier - 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