{"id":78403,"date":"2023-10-30T07:11:01","date_gmt":"2023-10-30T11:11:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/news\/fed-meeting-apple-earnings-and-an-oversold-stock-market\/"},"modified":"2023-10-30T07:11:10","modified_gmt":"2023-10-30T11:11:10","slug":"fed-meeting-apple-earnings-and-an-oversold-stock-market","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/?p=78403","title":{"rendered":"Fed Meeting, Apple Earnings And An Oversold Stock Market"},"content":{"rendered":"<div data-test-id=\"content-container\">\n<p><figure class=\"getty-figure\" data-type=\"getty-image\"><picture>  <\/picture><figcaption> <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure class=\"regular-img-figure paywall-full-content invisible\" contenteditable=\"false\"><picture> <span><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/50624080-16986591686116736.png\" alt=\"target rate probabilities for 1 Nov 2023 meeting\" contenteditable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\"><\/span> <\/picture><figcaption><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure class=\"regular-img-figure paywall-full-content invisible\" contenteditable=\"false\"><picture> <span><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/50624080-16986592339996982.png\" alt=\"target rate probabilities for 13 Dec 2023 Fed meeting\" contenteditable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\"><\/span> <\/picture><figcaption><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<p>The first bar chart is the fed funds probability for Wednesday\u2019s 11\/1\/23 FOMC meeting and what it\u2019s telling readers is that there is a 99% chance that the FOMC will maintain the current fed funds rate of 5.25% \u2013 5.50% for<span class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\"> the next 6 weeks.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\">The second bar chart shows the probability for maintaining the fed funds at 5.25% \u2013 5.5% at about 80% (as of Friday, October 27th) with a higher probability of about 20% of a 25 bps increase on December 13, 2023, or the next FOMC meeting after Wednesday\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\">Looking at the fed funds probability picture, it\u2019s clear the Fed \/ FOMC is on hold for now. Let\u2019s see if the FOMC statement, on 11\/1\/23, generates a rising probability of a 25-bp rise for the 12\/13\/23 meeting. (It\u2019s still pretty likely that the Fed\/FOMC or Powell would remain hawkish with this<span class=\"paywall-full-content no-summary-bullets invisible\"> week\u2019s statement. The bully pulpit and scaring the short end of the Treasury yield curve is still the easiest and cheapest form of monetary policy). However, I also think investors have to look at yields at the longer end of the curve, as there are some signs of the US economy weakening.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Let\u2019s see if the probability changes for the 12\/13\/23 FOMC meeting for a potential rate hike, after Wednesday, 11\/1\/23\u2019s meeting.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><em><strong>Oversold stock market: <\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<figure class=\"regular-img-figure paywall-full-content invisible\" contenteditable=\"false\"><picture> <span><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/50624080-16986596369319725.png\" alt=\"Bespoke report\" contenteditable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\"><\/span> <\/picture><figcaption><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">What\u2019s a Fundamentalis blog post without a Bespoke chart ?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Every sector above is trading in \u201cextreme oversold\u201d levels except consumer staples.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Crude oil is weakening, but the dollar is still too strong.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">This isn\u2019t an easy market to navigate.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><em><strong>Apple (AAPL) Earnings, Thursday night, November 2nd, after the closing bell: <\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Apple reports after the bell Thursday night and they\u2019ve experienced the typical year in terms of pre new product launch of the new Apple iPhone 15.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">The September quarter is the fourth quarter of fiscal \u201923, and it doesn\u2019t look like the holiday quarter (fiscal Q1 \u201924) will be any less robust than is typical for the iPhone giant, unless we see the onset of a nasty recession in Q4. However, in the calendar fourth quarter, 2018, when Jay Powell was raising the fed funds rate and the stock market was taking gas, Apple managed to just meet EPS and revenue consensus. The company did not manage their typical healthy \u201cupside surprise\u201d for the holiday quarter in Q4 \u201918.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">A look at Apple\u2019s EPS and revenue revisions over the last year:<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<figure class=\"regular-img-figure paywall-full-content invisible\" contenteditable=\"false\"><picture> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/50624080-16986598112451842.png\" alt=\"AAPL EPS\" contenteditable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\"> <\/picture><figcaption><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure class=\"regular-img-figure paywall-full-content invisible\" contenteditable=\"false\"><picture> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/50624080-16986598583235114.png\" alt=\"AAPL revenue\" contenteditable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\"> <\/picture><figcaption><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">These revisions are sourced from IBES data by Refinitiv and show a gradual softening in EPS and revenue estimates over the last 12 months, not really that unusual for the 2nd year of an iPhone launch.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">The key really is how well will the new iPhone and other Apple products sell in the holiday \/ Christmas quarter that has already started.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Apple is expecting -1% revenue growth and 8% EPS growth for the fiscal Q4 \u201923 that will be reported Thursday night, but for the December quarter, revenue is expected to be up 5% and EPS is expected to grow 12% for the holiday quarter.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Here\u2019s a history of Apple\u2019s revenue for the key December quarter for the last 5 years:<\/p>\n<ul class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<li> <em><strong>Dec \u201923:<\/strong><\/em> $123.23 billion (estimate)<\/li>\n<li> <em><strong>Dec \u201922:<\/strong><\/em> $117.154 billion (actual)<\/li>\n<li> <em><strong>Dec \u201921:<\/strong><\/em> $123.9 billion (actual)<\/li>\n<li> <em><strong>Dec \u201920:<\/strong><\/em> $111.4 billion (actual)<\/li>\n<li> <em><strong>Dec \u201919:<\/strong> <\/em>$91.8 billion (actual)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">As readers can see, if Apple doesn\u2019t lift guidance for the December quarter on Thursday night, there is a chance that total revenue growth for the last two years remains roughly flat with \u201921, assuming the current consensus remains close to its current level.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Apple is trading at roughly 26x EPS for a hardware company that is expected to generate just 6% average EPS growth for the last quarter of \u201923 and then the next two fiscal years. The services business of Apple is now 26% of total revenue \u2013 but the kicker is the services business packs a 70% gross margin, versus the iPhone and product segment, which has a 35% gross margin.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Multiple expansion is expected with Apple as services grows as a percentage of revenue. It\u2019s probably why Morningstar kept a weak or no moat rating on Apple for so many years, i.e., waiting for services to grow as a percentage of total revenue.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><em><strong>Summary \/ conclusion: <\/strong><\/em>Once again, a Bespoke chart jumped out at me this weekend and showed the 11 sectors of the S&amp;P 500 almost uniformly deeply oversold. Apple\u2019s revenue has slowed (depending on where and how the December fiscal Q1 \u201924 quarter turns out) but that deserves a longer look.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Take everything on this blog with substantial skepticism as it represents just one person\u2019s opinion and past performance is no guarantee of future results. All the EPS and revenue data is sourced from IBES data by Refinitiv. Capital markets change quickly for both the good and bad. Readers should gauge their own comfort level with their portfolio volatility and adjust accordingly.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Thanks for reading.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><em>Original Post<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>Editor&#8217;s Note:<\/strong> The summary bullets for this article were chosen by Seeking Alpha editors.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Read the full article <a href=\"https:\/\/seekingalpha.com\/article\/4644970-fed-meeting-apple-earnings-oversold-stock-market?source=feed_all_articles\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">here<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The first bar chart is the fed funds probability for Wednesday\u2019s 11\/1\/23 FOMC meeting and what it\u2019s telling readers is that there is a 99% chance that the FOMC will maintain the current fed funds rate of 5.25% \u2013 5.50% for the next 6 weeks. 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