{"id":77290,"date":"2023-10-26T23:19:18","date_gmt":"2023-10-27T03:19:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/news\/amazon-q3-2023-earnings-update-amzn\/"},"modified":"2023-10-26T23:19:30","modified_gmt":"2023-10-27T03:19:30","slug":"amazon-q3-2023-earnings-update-amzn","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/?p=77290","title":{"rendered":"Amazon Q3 2023 Earnings Update (AMZN)"},"content":{"rendered":"<div data-test-id=\"content-container\">\n<p><figure class=\"getty-figure\" data-type=\"getty-image\"><picture>  <\/picture><figcaption> <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<p>Imagine opening Amazon\u2019s (<span class=\"ticker-hover-wrapper\">NASDAQ:AMZN<\/span>) 3Q\u201923 earnings report 5 years from now and what do you think you might hope you paid more attention to? It\u2019s very unlikely to be AWS topline growth rate this (or any) quarter. If I have to<span class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\"> guess, it\u2019s the shipping+ fulfillment costs related developments that you would find more consequential 5 years from now.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\">I\u2019ll explain why but let\u2019s first take a look at some numbers quickly before going back to that discussion.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\"><strong>Revenue<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\">3P revenue grew by almost +20%, ads +25%, subscription mid-teen, and 1P MSD+.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\">AWS, which was the key focus for many, grew by ~12%. More on AWS later. Let\u2019s start a more segment-level discussion with Amazon, ex-AWS.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\">\n<figure class=\"regular-img-figure paywall-full-content invisible\" contenteditable=\"false\"><picture> <span><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/saupload_https_3A_2F_2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com_2Fpublic_2Fimages_2F8c10941d-a643-48f6-9e76-eecc0817b5c2_1502x234_thumb1.png\" alt=\"AMZN revenue\" loading=\"lazy\"><\/span> <\/picture><figcaption>\n<p class=\"item-caption\"><span>Company Filings, MBI Deep Dives, Daloopa<\/span><\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\"><strong>Amazon ex-AWS<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\">This chart is a good indication that the real story is not AWS<span class=\"paywall-full-content no-summary-bullets invisible\"> topline growth, rather the pace of improvement or margin expansion in Amazon \u201cRetail\u201d (defined as everything ex-AWS). The crux of this story lies in shipping and fulfillment related costs.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<figure class=\"regular-img-figure paywall-full-content invisible\" contenteditable=\"false\"><picture> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/saupload_https_3A_2F_2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com_2Fpublic_2Fimages_2F5df1a165-1610-4454-b1e0-af07fc5f2ad4_894x620.png\" alt=\"AMZN operating margin\" contenteditable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\"> <\/picture><figcaption>\n<p class=\"item-caption\"><span>Company Filings, MBI Deep Dives, Daloopa<\/span><\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>Fulfillment+Shipping<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Amazon re-architected their fulfillment network which is paying a lot of dividends:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<p>Our move earlier this year from a single national fulfillment network in the U.S. to eight distinct regions represented one of the most significant changes to our fulfillment network in our history. This change has gone <strong>more smoothly and made more impact than we optimistically expected<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">As delivery speed improved (as an Amazon retail customer living in upstate NY, I experienced the pace of improvement personally), it has unlocked new demand:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<p>we know how important speed of delivery is to customer satisfaction and buying behavior. A good example is <strong>the significant growth we&#8217;re seeing in consumables and everyday essentials<\/strong>. When customers are getting items as quickly and conveniently as they are now from Amazon, they&#8217;re going to consider us more frequently for more of their shopping needs. As we&#8217;ve shared the last few quarters, we&#8217;ve reevaluated every part of our fulfillment network over the last year.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">What\u2019s more encouraging is Amazon sounds optimistic that they can keep improving here. The difference between Amazon\u2019s integrated logistics experience vs. other alternatives will likely keep widening:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<p>\u2026don&#8217;t think we fully realize all the benefits yet and we continue to make steady improvements in fine-tuning the placement algorithms to enable even more in-region fulfillment and to further increase consolidation into fewer shipments\u2026<strong>We have a long way before being out of ideas to improve cost and speed<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">How does this manifest in numbers?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">If you look at worldwide paid unit growth vs. shipping+fulfillment cost growth, you would notice that the latter has consistently outpaced the former pretty much all the time since 2015 until a year ago. Since then, unit growth is faster (was at par in 3Q\u201923) than shipping+fulfillment costs, indicating some leverage in their logistics footprint.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<figure class=\"regular-img-figure paywall-full-content invisible\" contenteditable=\"false\"><picture> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/saupload_https_3A_2F_2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com_2Fpublic_2Fimages_2Fd2a34478-185d-4b6c-b8e0-d7c14fae18e4_1258x606.png\" alt=\"AMZN retail trends\" contenteditable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\"> <\/picture><figcaption>\n<p class=\"item-caption\"><span>Company Filings, MBI Deep Dives, Daloopa<\/span><\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Why is this a much bigger deal? In 1Q\u201922, shipping+fulfillment costs as % of GMV peaked at 26.1%. Since then, this number has been coming down almost every quarter to reach 22.7% in 3Q\u201923.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">If we give some credence to Amazon management\u2019s claims that there is ample room for cost improvement here, naturally a question comes to mind about the extent of this potential improvement.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Back in 2016, this number used to be ~17-18%, so almost ~500-600 bps lower from current level. I estimate Amazon will have ~$800 Bn GMV this year (defined as online sales+ (3P sales\/25%)). So every 100 bps improvement leads to ~$8 Bn profit to Amazon at 2023 estimated GMV level.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Now, I don\u2019t quite expect this to happen anytime soon. Amazon didn\u2019t have the 1-day shipping program in 2016, and their international presence was minimal back then compared to today, which has important implications here since those countries are at a different cost trajectory than more established markets (recently launched countries would have a much higher shipping+fulfillment expenses as % of GMV compared to Amazon US).<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">On the other hand, Amazon\u2019s further investments in robotics may be an added tailwind to cost curves that didn\u2019t exist back then:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<p>We have a very substantial investment of additional robotics initiatives. I would say many of which are <strong>coming to fruition in 2024 and 2025 that we think will make a further additional impact on the cost and productivity and safety and our fulfillment service<\/strong> <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">If you look forward to 5-10 years when much of Amazon\u2019s retail will be near maturity, this number can very likely go back to the high-teen level.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">There\u2019s an enormous operational leverage embedded in building these logistics and fulfillment network and as GMV increases over time, <strong>every 100 bps improvement will have a quite consequential lift to the bottom line<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Frankly speaking, I pay much closer attention to this than AWS topline growth on a quarterly basis.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<figure class=\"regular-img-figure paywall-full-content invisible\" contenteditable=\"false\"><picture> <span><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/saupload_https_3A_2F_2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com_2Fpublic_2Fimages_2F7bd61ede-417e-462e-8c9e-f1b14dcb2445_1481x755_thumb1.png\" alt=\"AMZN shipment cost\" loading=\"lazy\"><\/span> <\/picture><figcaption>\n<p class=\"item-caption\"><span>Company Filings, MBI Deep Dives, Daloopa<\/span><\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>AWS<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Okay, now let\u2019s talk about AWS.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">While 12% YoY growth doesn\u2019t sound exciting, QoQ incremental revenue in 3Q\u201923 was the highest in the last five quarters.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<figure class=\"regular-img-figure paywall-full-content invisible\" contenteditable=\"false\"><picture> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/saupload_https_3A_2F_2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com_2Fpublic_2Fimages_2F35db7359-749f-4403-8d1d-9cc754b7e9bb_1003x604.png\" alt=\"AWS QoQ revenue growth\" contenteditable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\"> <\/picture><figcaption>\n<p class=\"item-caption\"><span>Company Filings, MBI Deep Dives, Daloopa<\/span><\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>Azure vs. Google Cloud vs. AWS<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Of course, 12% sort of pales in comparison with Azure (MSFT) or Google Cloud\u2019s (GOOG) (GOOGL) growth number, Amazon believes they continue to enjoy the highest absolute growth over their competitors (hard to validate since others don\u2019t disclose exact numbers).<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<figure class=\"regular-img-figure paywall-full-content invisible\" contenteditable=\"false\"><picture> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/saupload_https_3A_2F_2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com_2Fpublic_2Fimages_2F9ddf8070-73c4-4b5d-9b16-271a277b9d52_1167x754.png\" alt=\"Hyperscalers revenue growth\" contenteditable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\"> <\/picture><figcaption>\n<p class=\"item-caption\"><span>Company Filings, MBI Deep Dives, Daloopa<\/span><\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\"><figcaption><\/figcaption><figcaption><em>*Google Cloud includes Google Workpace, so not quite apple-to-apple and in reality, GCP grew faster than Google Cloud<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">One thing I would like to track is Google Cloud\u2019s operating performance trajectory against AWS. While Google Cloud\u2019s revenue somehow managed to maintain its gradual momentum against AWS, opex trajectory really went haywire for Google Cloud.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">While that\u2019s disappointing for Google, it&#8217;s important to remember it\u2019s just a quarter. So we may need a couple of quarters to assess whether this trend is rather sticky.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<figure class=\"regular-img-figure paywall-full-content invisible\" contenteditable=\"false\"><picture> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/saupload_https_3A_2F_2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com_2Fpublic_2Fimages_2F2bf4e0a7-3334-4897-88f2-146f7ab3554f_894x578.png\" alt=\"Google cloud revenue\" contenteditable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\"> <\/picture><figcaption>\n<p class=\"item-caption\"><span>Company Filings, MBI Deep Dives, Daloopa<\/span><\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure class=\"regular-img-figure paywall-full-content invisible\" contenteditable=\"false\"><picture> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/saupload_https_3A_2F_2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com_2Fpublic_2Fimages_2F927f981c-33aa-4991-9c1c-d0bce73d8e38_861x587.png\" alt=\"Google cloud opex\" contenteditable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\"> <\/picture><figcaption>\n<p class=\"item-caption\"><span>Company Filings, MBI Deep Dives, Daloopa<\/span><\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Back to AWS.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">AWS incremental operating margin finally turned around. Operating margin returned to ~30%.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<figure class=\"regular-img-figure paywall-full-content invisible\" contenteditable=\"false\"><picture> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/saupload_https_3A_2F_2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com_2Fpublic_2Fimages_2F3d25bca1-e6a6-41cd-a17f-ca51942cda30_1228x124.png\" alt=\"AWS\" contenteditable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\"> <\/picture><figcaption>\n<p class=\"item-caption\"><span>Company Filings, MBI Deep Dives, Daloopa<\/span><\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure class=\"regular-img-figure paywall-full-content invisible\" contenteditable=\"false\"><picture> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/saupload_https_3A_2F_2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com_2Fpublic_2Fimages_2Ffe5f4028-c9b8-4f80-968c-d02697035f58_1269x664.png\" alt=\"AWS operating margin\" contenteditable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\"> <\/picture><figcaption>\n<p class=\"item-caption\"><span>Company Filings, MBI Deep Dives, Daloopa<\/span><\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">While management reiterated margins can fluctuate a bit, the reason cited for margin expansion this quarter was \u201cincreased leverage on headcount costs\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Management mentioned optimization is starting to \u201cattenuate\u201d. They used the word \u201cattenuate\u201d <strong>6 times<\/strong> during the call. They also highlighted that some optimization is actually good for both customers and Amazon:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<p>AWS&#8217; year-over-year growth rate continued to stabilize in Q3. And while <strong>we still saw elevated cost optimization relative to a year ago, it&#8217;s continued to attenuate<\/strong> as more companies transition to deploying net new workloads.<\/p>\n<p>\u2026while optimization still remain a headwind, we&#8217;ve seen the rate of new cost optimization slowdown in AWS, and we are encouraged by the strength of our customer pipeline\u2026When we look at the fundamentals of the business, we believe we are in good position to drive future growth as the rates of cost optimization slow down.<\/p>\n<p>You also see a lot of customers <strong>who are moving from the hourly on demand rates for significant portions of their workloads to 1- to 3-year commitments, which we call savings plans<\/strong>. So those are just good examples of some of the cost optimization that customers are making in less certain economies <strong>where it&#8217;s really good for customers short and long term, and I think it&#8217;s also good for us<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Amazon seemed to be really eager to assuage the concerns on AWS being a potential laggard on Gen AI:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<p>we&#8217;re seeing the pace and volume of closed deals pick up, and we&#8217;re encouraged by the strong last couple of months of new deals signed. For perspective, <strong>we signed several new deals in September with an effective date in October that won&#8217;t show up in any GAAP reported number for Q3, but the collection of which is higher than our total reported deal volume for all of Q3.<\/strong> <\/p>\n<p>\u2026In these early days of generative AI, companies are still learning which models they want to use, which models they use for what purposes and which model sizes they should use to get the latency and cost characteristics they desire. In our opinion, <strong>the only certainty is that there will continue to be a high rate of change<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>\u2026Our generative AI business is growing very, very quickly, as I mentioned earlier. And almost by any measure, it&#8217;s a pretty significant business for us already.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>Opex+Capex<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Amazon\u2019s cost structure is starting to show some sign of efficiency.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<figure class=\"regular-img-figure paywall-full-content invisible\" contenteditable=\"false\"><picture> <span><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/saupload_https_3A_2F_2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com_2Fpublic_2Fimages_2Fc1593ba1-386c-4fac-9ade-c0aa8522d02f_2021x291_thumb1.png\" alt=\"AMZN Opex and capex\" loading=\"lazy\"><\/span> <\/picture><figcaption>\n<p class=\"item-caption\"><span>Company Filings, MBI Deep Dives, Daloopa<\/span><\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>Other Bets<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Amazon hasn\u2019t given up on Alexa yet:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<p>We continue to be convicted that the vision of being the world&#8217;s best personal assistant is a compelling and viable one and that Alexa has a good chance to be one of the long-term winners in this arena.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<h2 class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>Outlook<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Amazon\u2019s guidance for 4Q\u201923 is below:<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<figure class=\"regular-img-figure paywall-full-content invisible\" contenteditable=\"false\"><picture> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/saupload_https_3A_2F_2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com_2Fpublic_2Fimages_2F8bd353ac-e662-4bd9-86c3-7cda93f20fba_1055x236.png\" alt=\"AMZN outlook\" contenteditable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\"> <\/picture><figcaption>\n<p class=\"item-caption\"><span>Company filings<\/span><\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><em><span><strong>Disclosure:<\/strong> I own Jan 2025 $55 call options of Amazon<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><em>Original Post<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>Editor&#8217;s Note:<\/strong> The summary bullets for this article were chosen by Seeking Alpha editors.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Read the full article <a href=\"https:\/\/seekingalpha.com\/article\/4644255-amazon-q3-2023-earnings-update?source=feed_all_articles\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">here<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Imagine opening Amazon\u2019s (NASDAQ:AMZN) 3Q\u201923 earnings report 5 years from now and what do you think you might hope you paid more attention to? It\u2019s very unlikely to be AWS topline growth rate this (or any) quarter. If I have to guess, it\u2019s the shipping+ fulfillment costs related developments that you would find more consequential [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":77291,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"gallery","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[236],"tags":[83],"class_list":["post-77290","post","type-post","status-publish","format-gallery","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-news","tag-featured","post_format-post-format-gallery"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v20.6 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Amazon Q3 2023 Earnings Update (AMZN) | iFintechWorld<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Imagine opening Amazon\u2019s (NASDAQ:AMZN) 3Q\u201923 earnings report 5 years from now and what do you think you might hope you paid more attention to? 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