{"id":58864,"date":"2023-09-09T06:42:05","date_gmt":"2023-09-09T10:42:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/news\/going-on-a-college-tour-might-be-an-eye-opener-but-it-probably-wont-help-you-get-in\/"},"modified":"2023-09-09T06:42:08","modified_gmt":"2023-09-09T10:42:08","slug":"going-on-a-college-tour-might-be-an-eye-opener-but-it-probably-wont-help-you-get-in","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/?p=58864","title":{"rendered":"Going On A College Tour Might Be An Eye Opener, But It Probably Won\u2019t Help You Get In"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Post-pandemic college tours are back and in high demand. Here\u2019s how to navigate the fall visiting season.<\/strong><\/h2>\n

By <\/sub>Emma Whitford<\/sub>, Forbes Staff<\/sub><\/h4>\n

T<\/abbr>he price of gas is rising. Air travel is a mess. But this fall, many college-bound high school seniors and their parents will spend days\u2014sometimes happily, sometimes not\u2014exploring far flung campuses. They may ask blunt questions of undergraduate guides; wander through dorms where the students aren\u2019t yet dressed; listen to lectures (if they get there on a weekday); snap touristy selfies with scenic views (at parents\u2019 insistence); or find that tours at the schools highest on their lists are already booked up, at least for fall weekends.<\/p>\n

While college visits done right (see the tips below) are still a valuable way to determine whether an institution is the right fit, taking an official tour of Princeton, Yale, Stanford, or Harvard won\u2019t earn you any points with the admissions office. Yes, many colleges do still consider what is called \u201cdemonstrated interest\u201d\u2014how eager a given applicant appears to be to attend the school\u2014in their admissions decisions. And historically, taking the tour was a good way to show interest.<\/p>\n

But today, no members of the Ivy League and none<\/em> of the top 15 schools on Forbes\u2019<\/em> 2023 America\u2019s Top Colleges even consider applicants\u2019 interest as a factor in admissions. Looking at the top 100 on the new Forbes<\/em> list, only 48% of private schools and 23% of public schools take demonstrated interest into account, according to the latest information they\u2019ve provided to what\u2019s known as the Common Data Set. By contrast, 81% of those same private colleges (including all eight Ivies) consider legacy status\u2014meaning whether an applicant is the child of a graduate, and particularly a wealthy one who might be or become a donor. (Among state schools in the top 100, only 27% consider legacy.)<\/p>\n

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Moreover, even those admissions officers who care about demonstrated interest measure it by a lot more than just who schleps to campus. They count interactions at college fairs and high school visits and how many times the student contacts the admissions office. And, like any good marketer, they track open rates and click through rates on emails.<\/p>\n

Then there\u2019s the University of Michigan (the highest ranked public college on the Forbes<\/em> list that\u2019s outside of California). It doesn\u2019t track clicks or visits, but factors in a student\u2019s interest based on how they respond to an essay question asking what attracts them to the program they\u2019re applying to, reports Kelly Cox, senior associate director of recruitment and operations with the Office of Undergraduate Admissions. Rice University in Houston does the same.<\/p>\n

Giving extra points for a college visit has fallen out of favor for several reasons. One is equity (though that doesn\u2019t seem to have killed legacy preference). Not everyone can afford a cross-country flight or weekend road trip to visit campus, says Jaime Soto, senior associate director of admissions for recruitment and communications at the University of Washington. Another reason is volume, he says. UWash, which received more than 55,000 applications across its three campuses for the 2020-21 academic year, doesn\u2019t have the time or resources to track the engagement habits of all of those applicants. This is a widespread problem: With more colleges using a common application form and going test-optional, high school seniors aiming for college are each applying to more schools. In 2022, according to Common App data, the average student put in 6.2 college applications, up from 4.6 in 2014.<\/p>\n

Finally, there\u2019s the enduring impact of the Covid-19 pandemic\u2014a time when colleges temporarily canceled in-person classes along with applicant visits, and beefed up their online campus tours. Kevin Donohue, assistant director of admissions at Dartmouth College and a 2021 grad, gave live virtual tours during the pandemic\u2014as an undergraduate, he\u2019d walk around campus with a gliding camera and answer questions that viewers submitted through a chatbox. One student loved the experience so much he attended Donohue\u2019s tour three times, he reports. Most schools have retained these virtual offerings.<\/p>\n

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So<\/abbr> why do parents and students bother coming to campus? Because it really does affect students\u2019 decisions. A fall visit is particularly important if a student is going to apply to a school for early decision. Under the rules, if a student is admitted through early decision and receives adequate financial aid, they are required to commit to that school and withdraw their applications from any others. (This differs from early action, where students apply and receive a decision ahead of time but do not need to commit to the school.)<\/p>\n

Donohue offers his first, junior year visit to Dartmouth as an object lesson. \u201cIt was a rainy April day. It was just miserable out \u2026 and I remember just loving it.\u201d At lunch he told his mom he was going to Dartmouth and applied early decision the next fall. \u201cThe joke that we make in college admissions is that if you visit a campus on a less than ideal weather day and fall in love, it means you found your home,\u2019\u2019 echoes Jennifer Ziegenfus, assistant vice chancellor for admissions at the University of Colorado, Boulder.<\/p>\n

Ziegenfus notes touring parents can sometimes seem more enthusiastic than their kids\u2014but that doesn\u2019t mean the students aren\u2019t influenced. The tour starting point at her campus is a statue of a mascot buffalo (Ralphie, he\u2019s called) framed by the Rocky Mountains. \u201cThe picture is one of the most iconic photos you can take on the entire campus. I have seen family members take a photo and the students be extremely resistant to taking the photo because they were essentially dragged to the visit,\u201d she says. \u201cThey might be coming from across the country or right down the street, and mom and dad make them take this photo.\u2019\u2019 Later, she adds, some of those same students become graduates with a different attitude. \u201cThey take this iconic photo, they keep it on their phone, and then years later they come back to show us.\u201d<\/p>\n

Embarrassing selfies aren\u2019t the only potentially problematic dynamic involving parents. Michigan\u2019s Cox notes it can be less than ideal \u201cwhen the parent is an alumnus of the institution and they\u2019re excited to be back and they had a positive experience and are hoping to share. They can take over the tour a bit and not leave it to the tour guide.\u201d There\u2019s also the game day visit, \u201cif there\u2019s tailgates and you see some activity on a Saturday morning from students pregaming so to speak.\u2019\u2019 (That, for you parents, means drinking in advance of a game.) \u201cParents may look at that and think, \u2018Oh, I dunno if this is really what we want for our students. And on the other hand, students might be looking at that thinking, \u2018Wow, this is awesome,\u2019\u201d he says. Then there\u2019s the issue of coordinating dorm tours. \u201cWe\u2019ve had a couple of reports back from our guys where they got there, entered the room and surprised some people who either are still in bed or not fully dressed for the day, and there\u2019s a group of 15 strangers walking in\u201d says Cox. \u201cIt\u2019s part of working with college students early in the weekend morning.\u201d<\/p>\n

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N<\/abbr>ow that campus visits are back in vogue, the biggest issue may just be getting all the tour slots you want.<\/p>\n

Between their twin sons and 13-month-younger daughter, Greg Tole and his wife Tosia of Denville, New Jersey, have three children who will be starting college next fall. During their 2023 spring break, Tole took his sons to visit schools in North Carolina, South Carolina, and Virginia, while his wife did a separate swing with their daughter. \u201cI prefer that my kids view quite a few schools because I think there\u2019s a certain vibe that you can get that\u2019s either going to be really appealing, or not,\u201d Tole says.<\/p>\n

Their efforts to plan the perfect trips were thwarted, however, when he realized that openings at several of their target colleges were already full. Tole couldn\u2019t get a guided tour at Clemson University or James Madison University, and his wife couldn\u2019t snag a time at the University of Georgia.<\/p>\n

Indeed, though the admissions cycle for fall 2024 has only just begun, listed weekend tour dates at some highly selective colleges are already booked. At Harvard University, currently scheduled tours run through mid-November, and all weekend slots are filled. At Princeton, weekend tours are booked through October. (Early action applications are due by November 1 at both those Ivies.)<\/p>\n

If you\u2019re keen on a tour, but all of the available times are booked, admissions officials suggest calling their offices\u2014it\u2019s possible the school might add additional time slots or keep a waitlist. (CU Boulder\u2019s Ziegenfus also suggests clicking on a full date online, because that sometimes takes you to the sign-up page for the wait list.)<\/p>\n

One tool Tole found helpful in his planning: College Scoops, an online service that for $99 a year (or $9.95 a month), offers virtual guidebooks to 101 colleges, designed to be useful to both parents and students. There are hotel recommendations, lists of nearby restaurants, interactive maps, links to register for guided campus tours and self-guided trip itineraries for each campus.<\/p>\n

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Moira McCullough, an Osterville, Massachusetts, mother of three, says she launched the service in 2019 because her first college visit with her oldest son was a disappointment. \u201cI was so excited to get one kid in the car, drive six hours, learn everything I can about my son\u2014all his desires and what he wanted to be and what he wanted to study,\u201d she says. \u201cAnd it was an absolute disaster.\u201d<\/p>\n

What her son wanted was \u201cthe experience of a dress rehearsal,\u201d she says. Instead, \u201che walked away from that visit thinking \u2018This is where I\u2019m going to live, learn and grow, and all I learned was what I had read about on the website and the brochures.\u2019\u201d So College Scoops offers answers from current undergraduates to such real life questions as where they eat, workout, party and park their cars, enabling kids considering a school to check out where they\u2019ll actually spend time\u2014beyond the classrooms and what\u2019s in the glossy, admission-office produced brochure.<\/p>\n

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