{"id":58733,"date":"2023-09-08T21:57:20","date_gmt":"2023-09-09T01:57:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/news\/ford-gm-u-s-steel-vs-sp-500-a-look-at-annual-returns-and-returns-on-invested-capital\/"},"modified":"2023-09-08T21:57:25","modified_gmt":"2023-09-09T01:57:25","slug":"ford-gm-u-s-steel-vs-sp-500-a-look-at-annual-returns-and-returns-on-invested-capital","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/?p=58733","title":{"rendered":"Ford, GM, U.S. Steel Vs. S&#038;P 500: A Look At Annual Returns And Returns On Invested Capital"},"content":{"rendered":"<div data-test-id=\"content-container\">\n<p><figure class=\"getty-figure\" data-type=\"getty-image\"><picture>  <\/picture><figcaption> <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<p><span><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/7176741-16942231789392586.png\" alt=\"total returns for Ford Motor (&lt;a href=\" https:=\"\" title=\"Ford Motor Company\" general=\"\" motors=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/seekingalpha.com\/symbol\/GM\" and=\"\" us=\"\" steel=\"\" since=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"427\" contenteditable=\"true\" data-width=\"640\" data-height=\"427\" loading=\"lazy\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p>This chart from YCharts, shows the total returns for Ford Motor (F), General Motors (GM), and U.S. Steel (X) since 2010, and then the total return of the S&amp;P 500 from the same inception date.<\/p>\n<p><span><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/7176741-16942232074050374.png\" alt=\"total returns for Ford Motor (&lt;a href=\" https:=\"\" title=\"Ford Motor Company\" s=\"\" and=\"\" us=\"\" steel=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"401\" contenteditable=\"true\" data-width=\"640\" data-height=\"401\" loading=\"lazy\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p>This chart takes<span class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\"> us back to 1990, but GM had to be excluded from the calculation given its bankruptcy in 2008. Again, the S&amp;P 500\u2019s total return from 1990 to August 31, \u201923 is daunting relative to Ford and U.S. Steel.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\">These are \u201cannual\u201d returns for each company and for each period, per the YCharts data.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\">This last chart is return on invested capital for the three companies, i.e. Ford, GM and U.S. Steel, since 2010 but Apple (AAPL) and Nike (NKE) were added as a comparison.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\"><span><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/7176741-16942232936842542.png\" alt=\"return-on-invested-capital for Ford, GM and US Steel\" width=\"640\" height=\"445\" contenteditable=\"true\" data-width=\"640\" data-height=\"445\" loading=\"lazy\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\">A couple of thoughts:<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\">1.) Ford\u2019s annual return since 1990 was surprising (2nd chart), and wasn\u2019t too far short<span class=\"paywall-full-content no-summary-bullets invisible\"> of the S&amp;P 500\u2019s for the last 33 years, but Ford\u2019s annual return in the 1990s decade was over 25% a year, which influenced the last 30 years.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">2.) Looking at Morningstar financial data on US Steel, which Morningstar does not currently rate or assign a fair value to, from 2013 to 2023, 4 of the last 10 years have seen substantial negative years of ROIC for the steel giant, with two of those years being a ROIC of greater than -20%.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">When U.S. Steel was recently put into play by Cleveland-Cliffs (CLF) in the last month, i.e. Cleveland-Cliffs announced it was looking to acquire the American steel giant, the announcement popped X back above its June \u201991 IPO price of $20 to $25 per share, after the stock spent the majority of the time since 2010 trading under that level.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><em><strong>Summary\/conclusion:<\/strong><\/em> What prompted this article was a note from a reader on the Big 3 and their United Auto Workers (UAW) union negotiations.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Much \u2013 but certainly not all \u2013 of old industrial America has rather unremarkable returns on invested capital and that comes with heavily-industrialized industries, that usually have a high degree of operating leverage (small changes in revenue generate large changes in operating profit and cash flow) as well as onerous capex requirements.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Clients owned Ford and GM stock after 2008 and the recovery after 2008, but the stocks were sold for good with little interest in owning given their constant issues with commodities (Ford), trouble maintaining profitability at overseas operations (Ford and GM) and pretty mediocre returns on invested capital over long time periods.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">The UAW has a strong hand in terms of its bargaining position heading into the 2023 negotiations, with a 3.5% to 3.8% national unemployment rate and sympathetic President and Congress supporting the rank and file.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Frankly though with the ascension of Tesla (TSLA) and the stress that is putting on the traditional ICE (internal combustion engine) manufacturers, my own opinion, and I\u2019m sure that many will disagree, is that the Big 3 are like the airlines, i.e. the mainstays like Ford and GM will continue to suffer from mediocre profitability and returns, while other OEMs that can shift, will do so to EVs (electric vehicles) and do so profitably, while the Big 3 suffer.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">The unions will have a strong hand entering negotiations, but whatever the victory that comes from the negotiations for the union is likely a Pyrrhic win at best. The higher costs and expenses could result in lower returns going forward and that will not help the ultimate health of the business.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Take all this with healthy dose of skepticism, since it\u2019s just one opinion. In no way does any of this represent advice, and past performance is no guarantee of future results.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">All of the above data and charts are from YCharts. Capital markets can change quickly for both the good and bad, and readers should evaluate your own portfolio and market volatility in light of your own comfort level and adjust accordingly.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Thanks for reading.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><em>Original Post<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>Editor&#8217;s Note:<\/strong> The summary bullets for this article were chosen by Seeking Alpha editors.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Read the full article <a href=\"https:\/\/seekingalpha.com\/article\/4634037-ford-gm-us-steel-vs-s-and-p-500-a-look-at-annual-returns-and-returns-on-invested-capital?source=feed_all_articles\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">here<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This chart from YCharts, shows the total returns for Ford Motor (F), General Motors (GM), and U.S. Steel (X) since 2010, and then the total return of the S&amp;P 500 from the same inception date. 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