{"id":44147,"date":"2023-08-03T17:36:48","date_gmt":"2023-08-03T21:36:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/news\/why-arent-there-enough-chairs-in-the-first-place-what-the-u-s-gets-wrong-about-poverty\/"},"modified":"2023-08-03T17:36:50","modified_gmt":"2023-08-03T21:36:50","slug":"why-arent-there-enough-chairs-in-the-first-place-what-the-u-s-gets-wrong-about-poverty","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/?p=44147","title":{"rendered":"\u2018Why aren\u2019t there enough chairs in the first place?\u2019: What the U.S. gets wrong about poverty"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em><strong>The Value Gap\u00a0is a MarketWatch interview series with business leaders, academics, policymakers and activists on reducing racial and social inequalities.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>We need to change the way we\u2019re looking at poverty in our nation in order to take steps to fix it, says the author of a new book titled \u201cThe Poverty Paradox: Understanding Economic Hardship Amid American Prosperity.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Mark Robert Rank, a sociology professor at Washington University in St. Louis who has long researched poverty and inequality and written other books on those issues, uses a musical-chairs analogy to explain.<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>\u201cThe traditional way of looking at poverty in the United States\u201d focuses on those who are experiencing it, Rank said in an interview with MarketWatch. Most economists point out that people living in poverty may have less education and fewer skills, and some health problems, he said. \u201cThat certainly explains who tends to lose out at this \u2018game\u2019. But that\u2019s only explaining who isn\u2019t finding a chair. It doesn\u2019t explain why there aren\u2019t enough chairs in the first place.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>In his book, Rank writes: \u201cThe key is whether one chooses to analyze the losers of the game or the game itself.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>That \u201cgame\u201d \u2014 influenced by American ideals of success that glorify rugged individualism and self-reliance and therefore tends to place much of the blame on individuals \u2014 includes systemic and structural problems such as the quality of education tied to property taxes; an increasing number of low-wage jobs with no health benefits; and a weak safety net. All of those things, combined with America\u2019s complicated relationship with race, are factors in cumulative inequality, Rank said. <\/p>\n<p>This MarketWatch chat with the professor about the issues he explores in his book, which also mentions potential large-scale, systemic solutions, has been edited for length and clarity.<\/p>\n<div data-layout=\"wrap\n                \" data-layout-mobile=\"\" class=\"\n          media-object\n          type-InsetMediaIllustration\n            wrap\n  article__inset\n          article__inset--type-InsetMediaIllustration\n            article__inset--wrap\n  \"><\/p>\n<figure class=\"\n        media-object-image\n        enlarge-image\n        img-wrap\n        article__inset__image\n      \" itemscope=\"\" itemtype=\"http:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\"><\/p>\n<\/figure><\/div>\n<p><strong>MarketWatch: <\/strong>In your book, you wrote about a \u201cmismatch\u201d between the number of jobs that can adequately support a family and the number of people who need those jobs. Will you elaborate?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rank: <\/strong>We just don\u2019t have enough jobs that pay enough and have decent benefits. <\/p>\n<p>This is a long-term trend. Household income hit a high point around 1973. Since then, full-time workers\u2019 earnings have been stagnant. And more and more jobs are low-paying jobs. If you\u2019re earning $20 an hour in San Francisco, it\u2019s impossible to survive.<\/p>\n<p>Globalization really put pressure on wages. Companies were able to move jobs elsewhere. And that undercut unionization \u2014 in the 1950s, about 35% of all private jobs were unionized, today it\u2019s about 6%. Also, the government, starting with [President Ronald] Reagan, started attacking unions.<\/p>\n<p>Another factor is during the last 50, 60, 70 years, the U.S. economy changed from a manufacturing economy to a service-oriented economy. Retail and fast-food jobs don\u2019t pay very much. The jobs created in this new economy are low-paying. Then you get into issue of Uber<br \/>\n        UBER,<br \/>\n        <bg-quote field=\"percentchange\" format=\"0,000.00%\" channel=\"\/zigman2\/quotes\/211348248\/composite\" class=\"negative\">-2.24%<\/bg-quote><span>,<\/span><br \/>\n       etc., [which has given rise to gig work that doesn\u2019t typically include the full benefits of employment].<\/p>\n<p><strong>See: <\/strong>Actors, writers, hotel housekeepers and grad-student workers are all striking for the same reason<\/p>\n<p><strong>MarketWatch: <\/strong>With consumer appetite for low-cost goods and services and some people\u2019s embrace of conveniences such as Uber and other on-demand apps, do you think people understand that we\u2019re all contributing in some way to the way things are?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rank:<\/strong> You\u2019re right. This isn\u2019t just random. A lot of us do benefit from poverty and low wages. Our products are cheaper, more convenient. That\u2019s certainly a factor here. Who is benefited by low wages? Certainly not the folks who are in the low-wage jobs, but people like you and me. <\/p>\n<p>Another way to look at it is, why do we have a safety net? It\u2019s supposed to be to protect people. But another argument is that it placates people so they don\u2019t revolt. You provide them with a little bit but you don\u2019t want to provide very much.<\/p>\n<p><strong>MarketWatch: <\/strong>So what role should corporations play in possible solutions?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rank: <\/strong>This is maybe pie-in-the-sky, but at one time, maybe in the 40s and 50s, there was a bargain or compact with workers. It goes back to Henry Ford. Pay people a reasonable wage, and as a result they\u2019ll be good workers. They\u2019ll reciprocate.<\/p>\n<p>What has happened is that has been abandoned. People are treated as cannon fodder.<\/p>\n<p>This gets to another important aspect. What is the cost of poverty? What is the economic cost? In my book, I mentioned that we did a [2018] study where we measured the actual cost of child poverty. It came out to a trillion dollars a year.<\/p>\n<p>So not only is dealing with these issues a social-justice issue, it\u2019s also smart economically. Corporations should treat people as human beings.<\/p>\n<p><strong>MarketWatch: <\/strong>Can you talk about how the ideals of American individualism contribute to poverty in our nation?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rank:<\/strong> Our country has been based on idea of rugged individualism and self-reliance. People came to this country seeking a new frontier, with the idea of starting a new life. The idea is you do it on your own. Your well-being is dependent on you working hard and playing by the rules. America is seen as the land of opportunity, and if you\u2019re not doing well, there must be something wrong with you.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s seen as an individual failing, that people aren\u2019t pulling themselves up by their bootstraps. But poverty is a structural failing.<\/p>\n<p>America is also an outlier in how it views poverty, and it has to do with race. In societies that are more homogenous, people are much more likely to be generous with each other because they look like each other and can relate to each other. <\/p>\n<p>Here, poverty is a racial issue \u2014 a Black, white and brown issue.<\/p>\n<p><strong>MarketWatch:<\/strong> One of the possible solutions to inequality you mention in your book is reparations, the push to compensate Black Americans for the effects of slavery. <\/p>\n<div data-layout=\"wrap\n                \" data-layout-mobile=\"\" class=\"\n          media-object\n          type-InsetMediaIllustration\n            wrap\n  article__inset\n          article__inset--type-InsetMediaIllustration\n            article__inset--wrap\n  \"><\/p>\n<figure class=\"\n        media-object-image\n        enlarge-image\n        img-wrap\n        article__inset__image\n      \" itemscope=\"\" itemtype=\"http:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\"><\/p>\n<\/figure><\/div>\n<p><strong>Rank: <\/strong>It\u2019s a very tough sell. People will say \u201cI didn\u2019t do anything. It happened more than 150 years ago. What do I have to do with that?\u201d There\u2019s also the idea of giving people something for \u201cnothing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Reparations need to be framed more along the lines of clearly there is all kinds of blatant discrimination. There\u2019s no question about it, though some people are trying to rewrite history.<\/p>\n<p>So why don\u2019t we open up more things for people, in terms of making sure everyone gets a good education? It\u2019s a tough sell given our mindset.<\/p>\n<p>But it\u2019s more and more in the conversation, such as in California [which just completed a first-of-its-kind study of reparations], and in certain cities.<\/p>\n<p>Another idea that has come on the radar is universal basic income or minimum basic income. It\u2019s become more and more part of the conversation. But again, you get this idea of we\u2019re giving people something for nothing.<\/p>\n<p><strong>MarketWatch: <\/strong>What about the relationship of poverty to democracy? In your book you talk about how some people lack the opportunity to participate fully in our democracy.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rank: <\/strong>Well, what is poverty? Many people would say it\u2019s the lack of income, the lack of money. But then you get to the question of if it means something beyond that.<\/p>\n<p>Nobel Prize-winning economist Amartya Sen describes poverty as a lack of freedom. In the United States we talk about freedom all the time. But when you\u2019re poor you\u2019re really constrained at what you can do. You lack freedom.<\/p>\n<p>Think about this. Why do we have elections on a Tuesday? This is bizarre. Most countries have them on a weekend or make it a holiday. Here, if you\u2019re working at a low-wage job, it\u2019s hard to vote on a Tuesday.<\/p>\n<p><strong>MarketWatch:<\/strong> You also talked a lot about human capital and cumulative inequality in your book.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rank: <\/strong>Human capital is the basket of goods in which we\u2019re able to compete in the labor market. It\u2019s our education, skills and experience.<\/p>\n<p>People in the U.S. are not starting at the same starting point. Look at any community, and the quality of schooling varies widely. That carries forth in people\u2019s lives.<\/p>\n<p>If you look at \u201cMonopoly,\u201d who\u2019s going to win that game? It\u2019s going to be people with a lot of resources. That calls into question the idea of equality of opportunity,  that everyone should have a fair chance.<\/p>\n<p>This undermines that. It\u2019s simply not fair and not right. If you\u2019re growing up in inner-city St. Louis, your opportunities aren\u2019t very good.<\/p>\n<p>Cumulative inequality helps explain why poverty exists.<\/p>\n<p>People focus on education as the key to people doing well and avoiding poverty. That\u2019s a great individual strategy. But for an overall systemic strategy, if we increase everyone\u2019s education but don\u2019t increase the quality of jobs, we\u2019ll just have Ph.D.s driving cabs in Massachusetts.<\/p>\n<p><strong>From our archives (Dec. 2022): <\/strong>Unpredictable pay \u2014 for gig workers and high-income workers alike \u2014 is linked to health problems<\/p>\n<p><strong>From our archives (May 2023):<\/strong> Want to fight poverty? \u2018Take a hard look\u2019 at your own tax breaks, Princeton sociologist says<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Read the full article <a href=\"https:\/\/www.marketwatch.com\/story\/why-arent-there-enough-chairs-in-the-first-place-what-the-u-s-gets-wrong-about-poverty-156a567f?mod=personal-finance\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">here<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Value Gap\u00a0is a MarketWatch interview series with business leaders, academics, policymakers and activists on reducing racial and social inequalities. 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