{"id":2016,"date":"2023-04-29T12:40:58","date_gmt":"2023-04-29T16:40:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/news\/exponent-inc-expo-q1-2023-earnings-call-transcript\/"},"modified":"2023-04-29T12:40:59","modified_gmt":"2023-04-29T16:40:59","slug":"exponent-inc-expo-q1-2023-earnings-call-transcript","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ifintechworld.com\/?p=2016","title":{"rendered":"Exponent, Inc. (EXPO) Q1 2023 Earnings Call Transcript"},"content":{"rendered":"<div data-test-id=\"content-container\">\n<p>Exponent, Inc. (<span class=\"ticker-hover-wrapper\">NASDAQ:EXPO<\/span>) Q1 2023 Earnings Conference Call April 27, 2023 4:30 PM ET<\/p>\n<p><strong>Company Participants<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Joni Konstantelos &#8211; Investor Relations<\/p>\n<p>Dr. Catherine Corrigan &#8211; President and CEO<\/p>\n<p>Rich Schlenker &#8211; Executive Vice President and CFO<\/p>\n<p><strong>Conference Call Participants<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Andrew Nicholas &#8211; William Blair<\/p>\n<p>Tobey Sommer &#8211; Truist Securities<\/p>\n<p><strong>Operator<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Good afternoon. And welcome to the Exponent First Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today\u2019s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions]\n<p>Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Joni Konstantelos with Investor Relations. Please go ahead.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Joni Konstantelos<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Thank you. Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us on Exponent\u2019s first quarter 2023 financial results conference call. Please note that this call will simultaneously be webcast on the Investor Relations section of the company\u2019s corporate website at www.exponent.com\/investors. This conference call is the property of Exponent and any taping or other reproduction is expressly prohibited without prior written consent.<\/p>\n<p>Joining me on the call today are Dr. Catherine Corrigan, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Rich Schlenker, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.<\/p>\n<p>Before we start, I would like to remind you that the following discussion contains forward-looking statements, including, but not limited to, Exponent\u2019s market opportunities and future financial results that involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those discussed here.<\/p>\n<p>Additional information that could cause actual results to differ from forward-looking statements can be found in Exponent\u2019s periodic SEC filings, including those factors discussed under the caption Risk Factor in Exponent\u2019s most recent Form 10-Q.<\/p>\n<p>The forward-looking statements and risks in this conference call are based on current expectations as of today and Exponent assumes<span class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\"> no obligation to update or revise them, whether as a result of new developments or otherwise.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\">And now, I will turn the call over to Dr. Catherine Corrigan, Chief Executive Officer. Catherine?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\"><strong>Dr. Catherine Corrigan<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\">Thank you, Joni, and thank you everyone for joining us today. I will start off by reviewing our<span class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"> first quarter 2023 business performance. Rich will then provide a more detailed review of our financial results and outlook and we will then open the call for questions.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">We are pleased to report another solid quarter, growing net revenues by over 9%, despite evolving macroeconomic challenges and uncertainty. Our results demonstrate the strength of our business with a diversified portfolio of offerings, serving a broad range of industries across the entirety of the product life cycle.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Safety, health and the environment are increasingly important as companies deliver innovation and push the envelope with new technologies. Exponent remains uniquely positioned as a trusted adviser, harnessing the power of technical excellence, objectivity and disciplinary diversity to help our clients solve their toughest science engineering and business challenges.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Increased demand for our reactive services, which have been foundational to Exponent from our inception, bolstered our growth in the first quarter. In the quarter, we saw an influx of litigation-related activity, as well as product safety and recall related work that spans multiple industries. On the proactive side, activity in the quarter was driven primarily by work in the consumer products, chemicals, utilities, automotive and life sciences sectors.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Turning to our engagements in more detail. Within our reactive business, we saw strong demand for both our domestic litigation and international arbitration related work, particularly involving the transportation and energy sectors, as well as intellectual property disputes. We also saw increased engagements around product safety and recall across a number of end markets, including transportation and life sciences.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Within our proactive business, engagements in the quarter were primarily driven by regulatory issues across multiple industries, product design consulting in the electronics and medical device spaces and asset integrity and risk related work.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Engagements continued related to machine learning data collection and user research across a range of end markets. This work is reflective of ongoing demand from our clients as they seek differentiated data to improve user experience and advanced product performance and reliability of their next-generation designs.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Across the business, Exponent is well positioned to capitalize on macro trends, including escalation in safety, health and environmental concerns that will have a significant impact on our business over the next several years.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">We are excited about transformations related to energy storage, vehicle electrification and automation, consumer electronics and digital health, as the complexities associated with these innovations will continue to drive work for our services. We are intently focused on understanding what is on the horizon and are positioning ourselves with the talent, capabilities and relationships to grow our client base and expand our business.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">In the quarter, our headcount grew 12% year-over-year, driven by our ability to attract and retain top tier talent. We are an employer of choice for the best and brightest scientists and engineers who choose Exponent because of our esteemed reputation for technical excellence, objectivity, and disciplinary diversity.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">We are committed to growing our world-class team and are pleased with our accelerated recruiting efforts over the last year, which have strengthened our unique position to meet the complex and dynamic needs of our clients.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">As always, we will continue to balance strategically expanding our team with utilization to ensure that we are positioned correctly for any market environment to deliver value over the long-term for all of our stakeholders.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Turning to our segments. Exponent\u2019s engineering and other scientific segment represented 83% of our net revenues in the first quarter, increasing 11% as compared to the prior year period, with continued strong demand for our services across the transportation, utilities, consumer products and life sciences sectors.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Exponent\u2019s environmental and health segment represented 17% of our net revenues in the first quarter. Net revenues in this segment decreased 1% compared to the same period in the prior year.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Excluding the impact of foreign exchange, net revenues for the environmental and health segment increased 2% in the first quarter as compared to the prior year period. Work in this segment was primarily driven by Exponent safety-related engagements, evaluating the impacts of chemicals on human health and the environment.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Before I turn the call over to Rich to review the financials, I do want to highlight the recent launch of Exponent\u2019s newly designed website, which underscores how we are helping clients create a safer, healthier and more sustainable world.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">We are incredibly proud to showcase our people and the diverse and impactful work of our team of experts who have helped assess some of the world\u2019s biggest disasters and challenges, including building collapses, chemical spills and high profile product failures.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Exponent\u2019s world-class team combines that experience with a vast array of scientific and engineering expertise to help our clients build future-focused solutions for their most profoundly unique, unprecedented, and urgent challenges.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Overall, our first quarter results exemplify the strength of our adaptable business model, unique market position and depth of our client relationships. We will continue to position ourselves for the future, investing in our talent, knowledge base and skill to deliver increasing value to our clients and our shareholders.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">I will now turn the call over to Rich to provide more detail on our first quarter results, as well as discuss our outlook for the second quarter and the full year 2023.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>Rich Schlenker<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Thank you, Catherine, and good afternoon, everyone. Let me start by saying all comparisons will be on a year-over-year basis unless otherwise noted. The first quarter of 2023 total revenues and revenues before reimbursements or net revenues, as I will refer to them from here on, increased 9.2% to $140.3 million and $128.7 million, respectively, as compared to the same period of 2022. The quarter\u2019s revenue growth was negatively impacted by 0.5% from foreign exchange.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Net income for the first quarter decreased 1.6% to $29.1 million or $0.56 per diluted share, as compared to $29.6 million or $0.56 per diluted share in the prior year period.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">The realized tax benefit associated with accounting for share-based awards in the first quarter of 2023 was $3.6 million or $0.07 per diluted share, as compared to $6 million or $0.11 per diluted share in the first quarter of 2022. Inclusive of the tax benefit for share-based awards, Exponent\u2019s consolidated tax rate was 18% in the first quarter, as compared to 9.7% for the same period in 2022.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">EBITDA for the quarter &#8212; first quarter increased 3.7% to $35.8 million, producing a margin of 27.8% of net revenues. Billable hours in the first quarter were approximately 385,000, an increase of 3.1% over the prior year.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">The average technical full-time equivalent employees in the first quarter were 1,052, which is an increase of 12% as compared to one year ago. This exceeded our expectations as recruiting has been very successful and our retention rate has improved.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Utilization in the first quarter was 70.4%, down from 76.5% in the same period of 2022. We expected utilization to step down from its elevated level in the first quarter of last year. Utilization was lower due to the very strong headcount growth, which resulted in corresponding decline in utilization. We are pleased to have delivered EBITDA margin in line with our guidance.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">The realized rate increase was approximately 6% for the first quarter as compared to the same period a year ago. In the first quarter, compensation expense after adjusting for gains and losses in deferred compensation increased 9.3%.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Included in total compensation expense is a deferred compensation gain of $3.9 million, as compared to a loss of $4.7 million in the same period of 2022. This is an $8.6 million swing. As a reminder, gains and losses in deferred compensation are offset in miscellaneous income and have no impact on the bottomline.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Stock-based compensation expense in the first quarter was $7.1 million, as compared to $6.9 million in the prior year period.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Other operating expenses in the first quarter were up 17.1% to $9.6 million, driven primarily by increased activity as our employees continue to return to our offices. Included in other operating expenses is depreciation expense of $2 million for the first quarter.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">As expected, G&amp;A expenses were up 38.1% to $5.8 million for the first quarter. The increase in G&amp;A expenses was primarily due to increased marketing and recruiting activities as in-person activities increase.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Interest income increased to $1.8 million for the first quarter, driven by an increase in interest rates. Miscellaneous income, excluding the deferred comp gain was approximately $730,000 in the first quarter.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">During the quarter, capital expenditures were $5.7 million and we distributed $14.5 million to shareholders through dividend payments. We ended the first quarter with $125.6 million in cash and short-term investments.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Turning to our outlook. Our full year 2023 outlook is unchanged. For the second quarter, 2023 as compared to one year prior, we expect revenues before reimbursements to grow in the high-single to low-double digits and EBITDA margin to be 27.5% to 28.5% of revenues before reimbursements.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">For the full year 2023 as compared to one year prior, we expect revenues before reimbursements to grow in the high-single to low-double digits and EBITDA to be 28% to 28.5% of the revenues before reimbursements.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">We have continued to benefit from the success of our recruiting and retention efforts. As a result, we expect technical full-time equivalent employees to grow 1% to 2% sequentially each of the remaining quarters, and as a result, FTEs will grow 10% to 13% year-over-year.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">We expect utilization in the second quarter to be 69% to 72%, as compared to 76.6% in the same quarter last year. Utilization in the second quarter will continue to be tempered by the increased headcount.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">We expect the full year utilization to be 70% to 72%, as compared to 73.8% in 2022. We still believe our long-term target of sustained mid-70s utilization is achievable as we continue to strategically manage headcount and balance utilization based on market demands.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">We expect 2023 year-over-year realized rate increase to be 4.75% to 5.5%. We expect that approximately the same rate will be realized for our annual salary increases that begin on April 1.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">For the remaining quarters, we expect stock-based compensation to be $4.5 million to $5.2 million. For the full year 2023, we expect stock-based compensation to be $22 million to $23 million.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">For the second quarter, we expect other operating expenses to be $10 million to $10.5 million. For the full year, we expect other operating expenses to be $40.5 million to $41.5 million as we continue to grow headcount and return to our offices.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">For the second quarter, we expect G&amp;A expenses to be $6.4 million to $6.8 million. For the full year, we expect G&amp;A expenses to be $27 million to $27.6 million. As a reminder, travel was very low in the first half of 2022. So the year-over-year growth in G&amp;A expenses is related to increased headcount, recruiting, business development and travel.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">We expect interest income to be $1.5 million to $1.8 million per quarter in 2023. In addition, we anticipate miscellaneous income to be approximately $600,000 per quarter to $800,000 per quarter.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">For the remainder of 2023, we do not expect any additional tax benefit associated with share-based awards. So the year-over-year the year-over-year lower tax benefit associated with share-based awards will reduce net income by $2.2 million and earnings per diluted share by $0.04.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">For 2023, we expect our tax rate, exclusive of the tax benefit for share-based awards to be approximately 28%, as compared to 27% in 2022. For the second quarter of 2023, we expect our tax rate to be approximately 28%, as compared to 28.3% in the same quarter a year ago. For the full year 2023, the tax rate, including the benefit &#8212; tax benefit associated with share-based awards is expected to be 25.3%, as compared to 22.6% in 2022.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">In closing, we delivered yet another solid quarter and remain well positioned to continue our profitable growth.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">I will now turn the call back to Catherine for closing remarks.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>Dr. Catherine Corrigan<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Thank you, Rich. Exponent stands at the cornerstone of engineering and scientific excellence, connecting the lessons of past failures with tomorrow solutions to create a safer, healthier and more sustainable world.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Our first quarter results demonstrate Exponent\u2019s leading position in the market, as well as our financial strength. Backed by our world-class team, multidisciplinary capabilities and diverse client relationships, we remain confident in our ability to grow Exponent profitably and drive long-term value for our shareholders.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Operator, we are now ready for questions.<\/p>\n<p id=\"question-answer-session\" class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>Question-and-Answer Session<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>Operator<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">[Operator Instructions] Our first question is from Andrew Nicholas with William Blair. Please go ahead.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"question\">Andrew Nicholas<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Hi. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to start with one on headcount growth. Just maybe more broadly, it seems like you hired a little bit stronger than even you had expected. Could you unpack why you think that was in the quarter, did attrition come in lower than you thought, is there particularly strong demand for working in Exponent now relative to previous quarters? Just any other color on the recruiting environment and what has driven your success there would be great?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"answer\">Rich Schlenker<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Yeah. Why don\u2019t I will start off there and give you back. So, look, we knew that we are coming into what we thought was a strong quarter for headcount growth. We had good momentum in the back half of 2022 and part of that carries over to those people you already have lined up coming in.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">But what we ended up seeing is, a couple of percentage point contribution from both sides of the net headcount equation and that included the fact that we were seeing strong acceptance rates and good access to top talent, which led to a little bit higher inbound level of people based on the quality of what we are getting on that side. And the same occurred in the retention sort of side, we saw that pulling back to levels that approximate the rate that we were seeing in the first quarter to now four months of 2019.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">So back to a more normalized level to pre-COVID than, obviously, what we saw, which was a new levels during 2021 and 2022, especially in those first four months as we pay out our bonuses in the middle of March and we provide reviews and communicate our salary increases that would take effect April 1, we had seen more higher turnover, and again, it\u2019s been a short period of time. We will see how the next couple of quarters go, but we are optimistic that we are in a good position in both of these areas.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"answer\">Dr. Catherine Corrigan<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Yeah. And Andrew, I would just add a little bit color on top of what Rich provided for us and that really just is around our &#8212; the strength of our employee value proposition. I think it\u2019s quite strong. It always has been. But we are in an environment of some level of uncertainty.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">And I think that this engineering and scientific talent perceives Exponent as a company with a strong foundation with a diverse portfolio of exciting and interesting work that they want to be a part of. So I think there are absolutely the quantitative aspects that Rich cited, but just also that overall value proposition that we feel is quite strong.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"question\">Andrew Nicholas<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Makes sense. Thank you. And then for my follow-up, I wanted to ask about the proactive business. It seems like, and correct me if I am wrong, that the reactive side was a bit stronger than the proactive side this quarter. If that is true and that was the case, what would you attribute that to and kind of related to the market uncertainty, has there been any change in demand from your proactive clients in the current environment?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"answer\">Dr. Catherine Corrigan<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Yeah. Thanks, Andrew, for that. Like you said, the reactive side of the business very strong in the quarter, both internationally, as well as domestically. This is our litigation portfolio. It\u2019s our recall related work, some of the defect investigations very strong around automotive, life sciences, some of the toxic tort areas.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">On the proactive side, we are finding it to be pretty variable across clients. We have got a lot of critical work that we are doing around the regulatory environment. The regulations don\u2019t go away when you have sort of uncertainty in the macroeconomic environment that need for innovation in industries like consumer electronics, or let\u2019s say, medical devices, that\u2019s still there.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">But what we are seeing with some clients is their they are getting themselves oriented around the uncertainty. Maybe they have had some layoffs. Their teams are resetting themselves and saying, okay, look, we have got to do this work, but it\u2019s going to be maybe next quarter, not this quarter. So we are seeing a little bit of that sort of behavior from some clients, but the reality is that, that critical work is still moving forward, right?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">So we have got a few areas where there may be a pause or we are going to start that in another month or two kind of thing, but we are seeing the workflow of those critical items continue to be part of that demand equation for us.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"question\">Andrew Nicholas<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Very helpful. Thank you.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"answer\">Dr. Catherine Corrigan<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">You are welcome.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>Operator<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">The next question is from Tobey Sommer with Truist Securities. Please go ahead.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"question\">Tobey Sommer<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Thanks. I want to start out with a sort of numbers question in terms of pricing. What was the nominal rate increase in January and how has realized rate impacted the model? I wasn\u2019t sure if there would be any nuances, because of the better kind of retention and acceptance rate, how that &#8212; what the puts and takes are there?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"answer\">Rich Schlenker<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Yeah. So our rate increase for our employees who were here on the January 1 timeframe was approximately 10% that the realization of that was approximately 6% that we realized out of that and that is based on mix and what you mentioned there.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">So we have always had this in our portfolio. It\u2019s not because we are having. As you are quite aware, Tobey, each of our employees have a single rate for the calendar year, each of them individually based on their experience and credentials and position in the marketplace is how that\u2019s set for all clients in all work and that remains that way and we have been able to continue to push that through in 2023.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">But as we are hiring in new people, which we had a lot of in the first quarter here, that is blended down and is why I have that stepping down a little bit further as we move through the year and it provided that guidance on where the rate would be.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">But we are quite pleased with where that realization is, realize that a little higher headcount, especially because we are hiring in typically at the entry level, which is for us, typically, a new PhD out of a top school, bringing them in and then growing them up over their career to hopefully achieve the level of principal in our organization. So that is what we are seeing at this time.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"question\">Tobey Sommer<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Great. I am curious, do you see a connection in demand for EXPO services when we have seen in recent months, layoff announcements either in TMT, consumer electronics, I guess, it\u2019s not uniquely in those verticals, but they are sort of top of mind these days?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"answer\">Dr. Catherine Corrigan<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Yeah. So, Tobey, clearly, the environment for hiring with regard to engineering and scientific talent that has shifted with the sort of larger picture that we see in tech &#8212; the tech sector and other sectors. So we are always having to compete with those entities for our talent.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">And this really goes back to the sort of employee value proposition that I was talking about before. We do have an ability to sort of acquire that talent. But at the same time, in the past, we have seen situations where because clients are unable to hire or are laying off that there\u2019s an impact on our demand, needing more help from consultants.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">We have seen that in the past in the regulatory world. We haven\u2019t seen so much of that thus far around the technology side, but certainly seeing that shift from the standpoint of sort of our talent acquisition.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">I think it is early. These teams, as I said before, are sort of resetting after a series of layoffs in technology and so we are going to continue to develop those relationships and develop our people to ensure that we can serve all of the needs that they have got around innovation.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"question\">Tobey Sommer<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">And I am curious if based on the better retention and higher acceptance rate, does it change your assumptions for those metrics throughout the year, and if so, do you tap the brakes on gross external hires based on how you see the marketplace and the opportunity to grow revenue?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"answer\">Dr. Catherine Corrigan<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Yeah. Thanks, Tobey. So it\u2019s really all about the portfolio and hiring strategically where we are seeing the need and the demand in the marketplace, right? So it\u2019s less about, okay, we are going to take a flat cut in our efforts across the Board, right? We have got to be looking at every one of our business units, every one of our capabilities and industries.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">For example, electric vehicles is a great example. This is an area where we are looking to acquire more talent, because of the opportunity that we see and so we are not tapping the brakes there. But in other areas where there is more softness, we can do different things, right? So I have got multiple dials on my dashboard that I can say, all right, we have got to ramp up here, we have got to pull back and it\u2019s very strategic according to the market.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"question\">Tobey Sommer<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Thanks. And maybe it\u2019s been too short a period of time, but since the banking turmoil commenced. Is there &#8212; is that a long enough stretch of time to notice whether it has mattered in the marketplace and I suspect if it did, it would matter more on the proactive side. But does that represent sort of a breakpoint in the year-to-date calendar before SVB and after?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"answer\">Rich Schlenker<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Tobey, we have really &#8212; we haven\u2019t seen a change relative to that event and I think that is that most of Exponent\u2019s engagements are not with startup organizations, while I realize that SVB clearly had mature entities or their competitors have mature entities banking with them.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">We have not seen that impact and I have had those discussions with our employees that are engaged in the tech area and I don\u2019t think where we see clients that are sort of a little bit slower to move forward and such, I don\u2019t think it\u2019s relative to them waiting on funding or not having funding and such that\u2019s just hasn\u2019t been our market in the past.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">But as you say, it hasn\u2019t been that long. Time will tell. But I actually suspect where our mature clients, which make up the vast majority of our revenues, if anything this creates more open market for them.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"question\">Tobey Sommer<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Okay. Last question for me. Rich, any change in the composition of big projects versus last time we heard from you in the portfolio and in the P&amp;Ls?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"answer\">Rich Schlenker<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">No. We sort of have what I will call a more normalized portfolio at this point in time. The large projects are 2% of revenue or such and going on across quarters and such and we will expect it to be more normal in that range. No outsized projects like we have had in prior years where something might be in that 4% or 5% of revenue range. So right now no.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong><span class=\"question\">Tobey Sommer<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Thank you very much.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>Operator<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">This concludes our question-and-answer session and the conference is also now concluded. Thank you for attending today\u2019s presentation. You may now disconnect.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Read the full article <a href=\"https:\/\/seekingalpha.com\/article\/4598108-exponent-inc-expo-q1-2023-earnings-call-transcript?source=feed_all_articles\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">here<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Exponent, Inc. 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